Eric, Thank you. That definitely makes more sense. Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, This where the family is from. When you order films at the FHC this the place to look for. In Faja Cima the church records are for Nossa Senhora da Olveira. A concelho is like a county, a group of towns. A fregusia is the town . Faja means fan but refers to the fan shaped area built up by eroding soil. This gives a flat place to farm and/or build houses. It's commonly seen as a place name all over the Azores. ( Faja Grande, Fajazinha,Faja do Joao Dias, Faja dos Cubres) So it would be the top or upper faja. Faja de Cima, is next to Faja de Baixo, the lower, bottom, or at the base. Here is a map from Doug Holmes Portuguese Geneaolgy Master list site. You can look through the postings there to see if others are researching this family also. http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores/ponta-delgada.html Eric On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jacki G. <[email protected]> wrote: Eric, Do you or does anyone else know what this means? Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima It translates as Clientele from above Faja Would that be where he worked? Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. Hope some others offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of. Luiz Fernandes for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes mother-Antonia Jacinta age of applicant - 39 years Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima Occupation- Campones- peasant persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 months number of people traveling-4 Eric Edgar On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau <[email protected]> wrote: Aloha Jacki, This is what I have on page 220: #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao Miguel. With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. Hope this helps Jacki. Iris Cabral Bilodeau. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jacki G. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM Iris, If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. Thank you Jacki Pittsburg, California, USA Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii". Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you want me to look up, let me know. Iris Cabral Bilodeau --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: From: Cheri Mello <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Jacki, Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes can take a look? 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