Jacki, I see someone answered your question. Yes, all ships first went to Honolulu where the people were process. The Portuguese immigrants went through the Portuguese Consulate and were recorded in those logs. Those logs are on microfilm with the LDS church. The consulate logs are a good resource because the bridge the gap. The passporte records says who applied to leave for Hawaii, the ship manifest tells you who was on board ship, and the consulate log tells you who arrived--sometimes including names not on the other records such as children born on the voyage.
As you are looking for Portuguese Hawaiians, have you visited mywebsite. www.yourislandroutes.com? I have indexes to Portuguese Hawaiian Memories, Robert DeMello's Azorean passports, as well as some other records. There is also alot of general information on genealogy and heritage. Thanks, Mel On Dec 11, 7:58 pm, "Jacki G" <ja...@cdmmarketing.com> wrote: > Iris, > > Thank you, that was really nice of you. > > I have been trying to find Luiz on a census but no luck so far. I don't know > how long they stayed there before moving onto California. He could have > only been on either 1890 or 1900 because he and his son Manuel (my g > grandfather) were dead by the time the 1910 census happened. I found Roza > and Manuels wife and daughters in 1910 in Oakland, CA. I know that Manuel > was killed 8/16/09 in a quarry explosion but I have no idea so far what > happened to Luiz and when. > > Jacki > Pittsburg, California, USA > Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo > Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel > > _____ > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Iris Bilodeau > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:32 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii > > Jacki, > I called Doris Naumu and she said all the ships that sailed Portuguese to > Hawaii landed first on Oahu. They had to be "cleared" before they were let > on shore. Smaller boats took on immigrants to other islands. > Iris > Nevada City, CA > searching Sao Miguel, Cabral, Oliveira > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Jacki G. <ja...@cdmmarketing.com> wrote: > > From: Jacki G. <ja...@cdmmarketing.com> > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 12:14 PM > > Eric, > > Do you or does anyone else know what this means? > > Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima > > It translates as Clientele from above Faja > > Would that be where he worked? > > Jacki > Pittsburg, California, USA > Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo > Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel > > _____ > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > eric edgar > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii > > Jacki, > > Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is > at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. > Hope some others > > offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of. > > Luiz Fernandes > > for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes mother-Antonia Jacinta > > age of applicant - 39 years > > Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada > > Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima > > Occupation- Campones- peasant > > persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 > months > > number of people traveling-4 > > Eric Edgar > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau <irisca...@yahoo.com > > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=irisca...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > Aloha Jacki, > This is what I have on page 220: > > #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40. Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao > Miguel. > With wife Roza de Jesus age 25. > Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months. > > Hope this helps Jacki. > Iris Cabral Bilodeau. > > --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. <ja...@cdmmarketing.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ja...@cdmmarketing.com> > > wrote: > > From: Jacki G. <ja...@cdmmarketing.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ja...@cdmmarketing.com> > > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii > To: azores@googlegroups.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM > > Iris, > > If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza > Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an > index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable > to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great > grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find > more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert > and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 > and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and > her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. > > Thank you > > Jacki > Pittsburg, California, USA > Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo > Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel > > _____ > > From: azores@googlegroups.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii > > Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to > Hawaii". Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. 1993. If anyone has names you > want me to look up, let me know. > Iris Cabral Bilodeau > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com > > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records > To: azores@googlegroups.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM > > Jacki, > > Pd. is not a code for that column. It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) > for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien. > > Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of > eyes can take a look? > > You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azores%2bunsubscr...@goo... > ups.com> . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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