Eric, I would say so, Pauline.. was Grace and Manuel Jr mother https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCXH-J4B 1930 census
Greg From: eric edgar Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank you!!! Greg, So the grandparents divorced? Then he married Pauline? I'll look for more on this. I have a similar stuation in my family. My grandmother's sister had a boy hit by a car and killed in San Antonio in 1935. When I traveled there to meet my great aunt , the family gave me his photo album. They didn't know what to do with it, but couldn't just throw it out, so I have it now. On the Victorino and Quiteria marriage, you'll see it was January 1888, and Manuel was born in October. I believe they are his natural parents. I'm looking forward to reading the book, many people have recommended it to me. Eric Edgar On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Greg's Gmail <[email protected]> wrote: Thank again, One person suggested that Falk had been derived from Falco or Falcoa? She was poor soul, her first child (not with Manuel) was killed at age 4 or 5 by a car in the street in front of her house chasing a ball. The story goes on to say she was holding his dead body in her arms screaming, his head was said to crushed. She spent the rest of her life an alcoholic who lived near East 14th Street San Leandro. She did live to be over 90..... Eric, the ancestry you send me has left me in a whirlwind. I have trying to make sense of Victorino’s marriage to Quitéria Tomásia do Coração de Jesus in 1888, that was the same year my grandfather was born? Wondering why my grandfathers birth doesn’t show. Then 20 years later Victorino put him on the ship. Or if Victorinos first wife was his mother was actually? That would make him full brother/sister of Francisca I have a copy of my fathers birth certificate, I found it the same time I found my grandfather immigration card. During the heat of filling out the certificate it shows my grandfathers name as Manuel Victor Dias and the son (Alvin, my father) with the name Manuel Victor Dias as well !! BTW I just finished reading “The Undiscovered Island” by Darrell Kastin .... would of read it non-stop but my vision gets blurred... Thanks again for helping me making it real! Greg From: eric edgar Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place WOW Thank you!!! Greg, The information was put together mostly from Ancestry.com for shiplist and censuses,from Vitalsearch for birth and death records, from the Gold Nugget Library site for city directories, and the NEPS site. What I haven't found is much on Elsie Falk. The children she had with Manuel show her last name as Rose. In the Alameda county area there are a few Elsie Roses, born in California, of Danish descent. The Elsie Falks found are also of Danish background. Another loose end is the sister Francisca mentioned on the shiplist. I'll get back to you if I find more. Eric Edgar On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Greg's Gmail <[email protected]> wrote: Eric, Gracias por todo!!!!!! I was looking at those ships logs and only recently had the Garcia name!!!! Was the info from the EllisIsland.org site? I also went crazy on the NEPS site recently ... tried a lot of name combinations.... but obviously YOU have the magic touch my friend. I saw the name Vitorino and it reminded me of my fathers middle name Victor. Tell me Eric.. where are you from and a little about your ancestors... por favor. I live in El Salvador now in the coffee mountains overlooking the Pacific. We just finished our annual party for all of the employees of our community with their children. 100 plus, the are so genuine and grateful. My heart has always been open to all peoples and now I find I have a new mission. I am enamored by finding out WHY for my whole life I have love the sea, Islands, volcanoes and believe it or not earthquakes! ... I was born in San Francisco, lived in Los Anglers and now El Salvador all earthquakes zones. This is the key for me my friend. If I find some cousins there I will share the info here Greg From: eric edgar Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandfathers Birth Place Greg, Your lucky day! I found Manuel Garcia Dias on a ship list coming from Faial to Massachucetts 1909. It had fathers name, Victorino Dias Furtado. I took this to the NEPS site for Faial and hunted around a while to find him in Feteiria. That gave me the Praia do Almoxarife birthplace. So here is what appears to be the family tree going back four more generations from the great grandfather. Eric Edgar Manuel Furtado da Rosa Nascido - Praia do Almoxarife Falecido a 2 de Maio de 1798 - Praia do Almoxarife Casado com Catarina Inácia, tiveram José ? 1773-1773 Francisco Furtado 1774 Ana ? 1778 Teresa ? 1783-1784 Francisco Furtado Nascido a 1 de Setembro de 1774 - Praia do Almoxarife Pais : Manuel Furtado da Rosa +1798 Catarina Inácia Casado a 28 de Abril de 1811 com Ana Inácia 1788, tiveram Francisco Furtado Dias 1810 José ? 1813 Rosa Felícia 1814 António Dias da Silva 1817 Maria ? 1819 Vitorino ? 1821 António Dias da Silva Furtado Nascido a 2 de Abril de 1817 - Praia do Almoxarife Pais: Francisco Furtado 1774 Ana Inácia 1788 Casado com Clara Mariana, tiveram António Pereira Dias 1842 Maria do Céu 1847 Clara ? 1851 Vitorino Dias 1854 Manuel ? 1857 Manuel ? 1864 Maria Clara •Clara da Graça Dias 1844 José Francisco Dias 1849 Maria ? 1853 Luísa ? 1860 Manuel ? 1862 Vitorino Furtado Dias Nascido - Praia do Almoxarife Pais Francisco Furtado Ana Inácia Casado a 14 de Janeiro de 1888 com Quitéria Tomásia do Coração de Jesus 1835 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:azores%[email protected]. 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