João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of
the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I
have had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got
to do their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them
for me). The "breach" I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They
upload it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked
private.  So if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it
undoes the previous command/setting/tech thing.)

The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents
name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of
birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is
used (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what.
I'm not really saying these things are still used, but this type of
information could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam
where the scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They
should have made sure the program wasn't causing this type of information
to get out no matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up
telling you what you were about to do by checking private. I'm
just frustrated with their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix.

Tish
João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am
working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my
best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my
parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do
this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time.
You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were
getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow.

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

> Joao C,
>
> Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when
> creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload
> it to their site.
>
> Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom.  They upload
> it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private.  So
> if the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the
> previous command/setting/tech thing.
>
> Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our
> privacy.  They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't
> stealing banking info.  They give us the choice as to what we want to share
> or not share.  However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph
> above) isn't clear at all.
>
> All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a
> suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are
> going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month!  LOL
>
> Cheri
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden!
>>
>> YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That
>> third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like.
>> Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to
>> others.
>>
>> Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE
>> you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you
>> to 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you
>> like at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come
>> up with filters that suit your taste.
>>
>> João Ventura
>> http://tombo.pt/en
>>
>> On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote:
>>>
>>> I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to
>>> do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy.
>>> Tish
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know.  It feels like they released a beta to the public!!  They
>>>> know.  They have a bunch of admins up in arms.  And the conference is next
>>>> month.  IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor!  Or they are
>>>> going to have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because
>>>> IT/Engineering may get some!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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