Tish I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. This is my solution until I find a better one.
I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it without there full birth information (year only). On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M <[email protected]> wrote: > João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault of > the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I have > had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to do > their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for > me). The "breach" I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload it > to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if > the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the > previous command/setting/tech thing.) > > The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents > name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of > birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is used > (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm not > really saying these things are still used, but this type of information > could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the > scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have made > sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no > matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you > what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with > their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. > > Tish > João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I am > working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my > best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my > parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do > this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this time. > You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were > getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Joao C, >> >> Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when >> creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you upload >> it to their site. >> >> Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They upload >> it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if >> the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the >> previous command/setting/tech thing. >> >> Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our >> privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't >> stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to share >> or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph >> above) isn't clear at all. >> >> All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a >> suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who are >> going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! LOL >> >> Cheri >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! >>> >>> YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That >>> third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't like. >>> Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present to >>> others. >>> >>> Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter BEFORE >>> you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows you to >>> 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you like >>> at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come up >>> with filters that suit your taste. >>> >>> João Ventura >>> http://tombo.pt/en >>> >>> On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: >>>> >>>> I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend to >>>> do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. >>>> Tish >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They know. >>>>> They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next month. >>>>> IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! Or they are going to >>>>> have to search us admins for rotten tomatoes because IT/Engineering may >>>>> get >>>>> some!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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