Marilyn, Thank you for your input. I agree with you. Maybe I will do the same. I guess I just don't like having to manipulate my data because the programers can't get their act together. Personally, I don't know why they changed their trees in the first place. I think they just thought adding bells and whistles would get them more "passengers" people to sign up to do DNA. I think they should look to their credibility as a DNA testing site, but I do understand their dilemma. Oh well... Tish
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Marilyn Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Tish > > I understand your frustraion. So I am only including myself without > full birth information, then my deceased parents and ancestors to my > GEDCOM. I am not adding my living cousins (other than those tested) as > their deceased parents are showing and I figure if someone gets that > close, they can tell where we match or not at that point. That way I > do not have to worry about private or not private. Yes it will take me > a little more to prepare the GEDCOM but then I know what is showing. > This is my solution until I find a better one. > > I do know that if I want to match up to the 2 cousins that I have had > tested, I will have to include them in my database, but will do it > without there full birth information (year only). > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Tish M <[email protected]> wrote: > > João misinterpreted my statement. The breach of privacy isn't the fault > of > > the company, it's with the IT's. I am very much a fan of the company, I > have > > had nothing but positive feedback from them. The people they have got to > do > > their programing are the ones I'm hot at (throw a rotten egg at them for > > me). The "breach" I am talking about is this sort of thing. (They upload > it > > to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. So if > > the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the > > previous command/setting/tech thing.) > > > > The breach statement is that you have given them your name, your parents > > name and in many cases all of your parents pertinent information (date of > > birth, where they were born, etc.). Much of this type of information is > used > > (or used to be used) in setting up bank accounts, and who know what. I'm > not > > really saying these things are still used, but this type of information > > could surely be used for identity theft, or some other scam where the > > scammer has information you have unwittingly provided. They should have > made > > sure the program wasn't causing this type of information to get out no > > matter what you checked. Maybe they should have had a pop up telling you > > what you were about to do by checking private. I'm just frustrated with > > their system and until it is fixed, this is my fix. > > > > Tish > > João, in ways you are right. I can give them anything I want, but when I > am > > working with a company (who I trust) I expect that company to act with my > > best interest at heart. In the further I will make my gedcom with my > > parameters as I want them. I personally don't think I should have to do > > this, but I get your point. I still does not change my stance at this > time. > > You say now no one can look at my stuff, this is true, but all they were > > getting was PRIVATE when they looked anyhow. > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Joao C, > >> > >> Actually, FTDNA prefers that you NOT make it anonymous on your end when > >> creating the Gedcom and then to chose the privacy settings when you > upload > >> it to their site. > >> > >> Many people mark the living private when creating the Gedcom. They > upload > >> it to FTDNA and they ask if you want the living to be marked private. > So if > >> the user says yes again, it is UNMARKED private, because it undoes the > >> previous command/setting/tech thing. > >> > >> Tish, I don't understand why you say FTDNA is doing a breach to our > >> privacy. They aren't installing anything on our computers. They aren't > >> stealing banking info. They give us the choice as to what we want to > share > >> or not share. However, their directions about how to do it (paragraph > >> above) isn't clear at all. > >> > >> All I know is that the IT/Engineering guys are going to have to wear a > >> suit of armor from head to toe, because there are a lot of admins who > are > >> going to throw rotten tomatoes at them at the conference next month! > LOL > >> > >> Cheri > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:14 AM, João Ventura <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I find it interesting that it's their problem all of a sudden! > >>> > >>> YOU have uploaded data with private information to a third party. That > >>> third party has decided to apply a filter on that data that you don't > like. > >>> Fine, So you decide to filter out everything on the data they present > to > >>> others. > >>> > >>> Have you ever considered that you should have applied that filter > BEFORE > >>> you uploaded that data? I'm pretty sure your genealogy program allows > you to > >>> 'anonymise' living persons. Just export a GEDCOM filtered the way you > like > >>> at the source and you shouldn't need to worry about having FTDNA come > up > >>> with filters that suit your taste. > >>> > >>> João Ventura > >>> http://tombo.pt/en > >>> > >>> On Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:55:41 UTC+2, sfig wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I have made everything private. Until they fix their problem I intend > to > >>>> do so. I feel their system is a breach of our privacy. > >>>> Tish > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I know. It feels like they released a beta to the public!! They > know. > >>>>> They have a bunch of admins up in arms. And the conference is next > month. > >>>>> IT/Engineering is going to have to go in body armor! 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