Annie, Yes a different Carvalho family.
The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be a transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and I have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada. Eric On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho <[email protected]> wrote: > Eric, > > I want to be sure I understand you. > > Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family? > Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, > though I'm in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a > Carvalho. > > And are you saying that > Maria de Jesus de Freitas and > Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest > did the recording? > > Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. > I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the > grandparents. > > Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few > years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her > husband whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house > that Tio Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in > and I have both an old photo of the house waaaaay back when and then a new > photo I took when I was in the Azores a few years ago. > > A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on > my blog at this link: Our Precious Past > <http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html> > > Again, thank you for the information. > Annie > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Annie, >> >> The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in >> the Niles, Alameda, California >> >> The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta >> Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so >> the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. >> >> *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There >> is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* >> called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look in. >> >> Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents >> >> >> On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism >> record, marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be >> written by different priests >> >> The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage >> record, she was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person >> >> The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name >> used later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, >> mother's , any of the >> >> grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname) >> added. >> >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com >>> (Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each >>> other, they were being flagged as spam. All responses are being placed >>> into 1 message on the correct thread. Thank yous were deleted). >>> >>> Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was >>> Tomas, and was changed to Thomas. >>> They were from the island of Pico. >>> Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho? >>> ============== >>> John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford? >>> ============== >>> Some of these names are very familiar. >>> I will look at this closely today. >>> ============== >>> I was surprised the passport didn't have her birthdate on it. >>> Did you see it? >>> I knew she was born in Santa Cruz - that was a mistake on my part. >>> Thanks for catching it. >>> ============ >>> Eric, that Carvalho family from San Jorge may be my ex-husband's family. >>> I will contact him and let him know. >>> ============ >>> Is Bretanha, Ajuda a place? >>> I thought it was a family surname. >>> I found this name carved in the door at the Bishop's prison in St. Jean >>> Pied de Port when I walked the Camino Santiago. >>> I have a photo. >>> I'll try to find it and post it. >>> ============ >>> Eric, >>> When you say "paterno" I'm not sure who this is? >>> ========== >>> My grandmother is Maria de JESUS de Freitas, not Maria de Jose de >>> Freitas. >>> Is this the same person? >>> Annie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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