I don't know. I think this is my family. The names are all family names. The first names are right. The dates and village are right. If it is them, there will be 7 more children:
- Alfredo Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106961840> - Anna Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263669> - Antonio Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263568> - Cecilia Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263677> - Christina Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263644> - Manuel Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203263592> - Jose Joachim "JJ" Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26106360198>1884 – 1964 - Maria Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26203232324>1890 – 1962 - Joao John Joachim Carvalho <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53207035/person/26121135035>1903 – On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 8:38:02 PM UTC-8, luiznoia wrote: > > Annie, > > Yes a different Carvalho family. > > The record that says Maria Jose de Freitas is the same person. It could be > a transcription error by the archivist, or the way the priest wrote it. > > I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. My mom's family came from Flores and > I have cousins raised there that are now in the US and Canada. > > Eric > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Annie Carvalho <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> I want to be sure I understand you. >> >> Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family? >> Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, >> though I'm in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a >> Carvalho. >> >> And are you saying that >> Maria de Jesus de Freitas and >> Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest >> did the recording? >> >> Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it. >> I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the >> grandparents. >> >> Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a >> few years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her >> husband whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house >> that Tio Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in >> and I have both an old photo of the house waaaaay back when and then a new >> photo I took when I was in the Azores a few years ago. >> >> A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on >> my blog at this link: Our Precious Past >> <http://www.ourpreciouspast.blogspot.com/2015/02/jj-carvalho-short-biography.html> >> >> Again, thank you for the information. >> Annie >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Annie, >>> >>> The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in >>> the Niles, Alameda, California >>> >>> The parish church for the freguisia of *Bretanha* in the concelho of *Ponta >>> Delgada*, island of* Sao Miguel* is called *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda*, so >>> the records read *Ajuda de Bretanha*. >>> >>> *Nossa Senhora de Ajuda* means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There >>> is another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of *Ribeira Grande* >>> called *Fenais de Ajuda*, so it's important to know which one to look >>> in. >>> >>> Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents >>> >>> >>> On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism >>> record, marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be >>> written by different priests >>> >>> The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage >>> record, she was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person >>> >>> The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name >>> used later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, >>> mother's , any of the >>> >>> grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha >>> (nickname) added. >>> >>> >>> Eric Edgar >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com >>>> (Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each >>>> other, they were being flagged as spam. All responses are being placed >>>> into 1 message on the correct thread. Thank yous were deleted). >>>> >>>> Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was >>>> Tomas, and was changed to Thomas. >>>> They were from the island of Pico. >>>> Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho? >>>> ============== >>>> John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford? >>>> ============== >>>> Some of these names are very familiar. >>>> I will look at this closely today. >>>> ============== >>>> I was surprised the passport didn't have her birthdate on it. >>>> Did you see it? >>>> I knew she was born in Santa Cruz - that was a mistake on my part. >>>> Thanks for catching it. >>>> ============ >>>> Eric, that Carvalho family from San Jorge may be my ex-husband's family. >>>> I will contact him and let him know. >>>> ============ >>>> Is Bretanha, Ajuda a place? >>>> I thought it was a family surname. >>>> I found this name carved in the door at the Bishop's prison in St. Jean >>>> Pied de Port when I walked the Camino Santiago. >>>> I have a photo. >>>> I'll try to find it and post it. >>>> ============ >>>> Eric, >>>> When you say "paterno" I'm not sure who this is? >>>> ========== >>>> My grandmother is Maria de JESUS de Freitas, not Maria de Jose de >>>> Freitas. >>>> Is this the same person? >>>> Annie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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