If my grandfather naturalized in the US does that mean that my father and I can not apply for the dual citizenship?
Denise D’Antona > On Aug 18, 2015, at 5:07 PM, David Perry <[email protected]> wrote: > > I got Portuguese citizenship through the San Francisco consulate - my father > was born in the Azores. After I received my citizenship, my son did the same > thing in New York My having done it first made it easier for him. Actually, > it was all pretty easy for both of us. The only glitch that might have been > a problem was my father changed his name from Joao Pereira which was on his > birth certificate to John Perry which was on my birth certificate. > Fortunately, he had made an official name change back in 1939 and had a paper > record to prove it. There was concern at the consulate that older records > wouldn't fly in Lisbon - I had to get a recent BC for my father, the one he > had from 1939 wouldn't fly - but they let the name change thing go through. > Without that certificate, my (and my son's applications) would have been > denied. > > As for taxes paid in both countries, if you earn money in both countries, you > pay taxes in both countries. The US is the only major country however that > taxes you on earnings overseas even if you haven't set foot in the US for > decades. And while there is an IRS tax credit for income earned overseas, I > don't know if that applies to capital gains taxes or other forms of income > besides earned income. The forms required to satisfy the IRS are formidable > and typically cost a few thousand dollars to complete if you pay someone. > David > > On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-7, Jose Medeiros wrote: > Marylyn > > I would start with a birth certificate of your grandfather or grandmother > born in Portugal, Açores or Madeira > Then I would get a birth certicicate of your dad or mother that have the > names of your grandfather and grandmother > Last your own birth certificate with your dad and mother > With these 3 documents there should not be any problems proving you are a > decendant of Portuguese grandparents > > On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:32:10 PM UTC-4, HK Pimental wrote: > I suggest that you check the Portuguese Consulate webpage which is in English > > Sent from Windows Mail > > From: Marilyn Thompson <> > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:58 PM > To: [email protected] <> > > Would you please post a list of the requirements? Not in full detail, but > enough so those who are considering applying will know if they meet the > requirements. Thanks > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:16 AM, <[email protected] <>> wrote: > I haave had much better experiences with the consulates. It is the rule that > you must go to the consulate that is assigned your area. So, when we moved > from Utah to Portugal 23 years ago we had to use the San Francisco Consulate. > We could have done everything by mail but since it was convenient for us we > went to SF for the final arrangements. We had no problems and the person in > charge of visas was very accommodating and helpful. It has been our > experience here in Portugal with the Serviço Estrangeiros and Fronteiras., > SEF, that everyone has been very helpful whenever we have needed anything. I > am applying for citizenship based on my great grandparents and my desire to > live in Portugal. I have a lawyer and everything has been smooth so far. I > may have to wait til I have been a residente 5 years unless they grant me a > waiver. They occaionally do that if you live in the country and can prove > that you have basic language proficiency and a desire to be a part of > Portugal. I suggest that you have all of the proff you need and follow the > instructions as the consulate gives them to you. I think that if you > understand that it is a diferente country with defferent procedures and > methods than the USA you will not have any problems. I have certainly found > it to be true that I would rather deal with any Portuguese government > employee than the department of motor vehicles in any US state😊 > > > From: Jose Medeiros <> > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:43 PM > To: [email protected] <> > > In dealings w/them very difficult and they think ( not all ) they are a > superior being to you > I am sure you will not show up at a consulate and say John Smith was my > grandfather, born in the Azores and I desire Portuguese citizenship. > You better have birth certificates of your family that ties all and all lead > to you as the grandchild of your grandfather born in the Azores > The consulates in USA especially in the East coast of USA are ridiculous > I have a family member that lives in Minnesota and she has to go to > Washington DC when she needs the consulate > She comes often to Massachusetts yet the consulate in Boston WILL NOT let her > do anything there > She is lucky because she works for an airline and can get flights to > Washington, DC but imagine taking all your family just to do a passport or > whatever paper you need and they will not do it in Boston but you have to go > to Washington,DC. > RIDICULOUS > > On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 12:19:14 AM UTC-4, Ellen Ade wrote: > How difficult? Are there consulates in the US? I currently have a euro > passport and Irish citizenship as my azores grandfather married my Irish > grandmother - both immigrated, so I am 2nd generation on both sides. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores > <http://groups.google.com/group/Azores>. 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