As long as he was born in Portugal is my understanding. On Aug 18, 2015 8:24 PM, "'Denise' via Azores Genealogy" < [email protected]> wrote:
> If my grandfather naturalized in the US does that mean that my father and > I can not apply for the dual citizenship? > > Denise D’Antona > > > On Aug 18, 2015, at 5:07 PM, David Perry <[email protected]> wrote: > > I got Portuguese citizenship through the San Francisco consulate - my > father was born in the Azores. After I received my citizenship, my son did > the same thing in New York My having done it first made it easier for > him. Actually, it was all pretty easy for both of us. The only glitch > that might have been a problem was my father changed his name from Joao > Pereira which was on his birth certificate to John Perry which was on my > birth certificate. Fortunately, he had made an official name change back > in 1939 and had a paper record to prove it. There was concern at the > consulate that older records wouldn't fly in Lisbon - I had to get a recent > BC for my father, the one he had from 1939 wouldn't fly - but they let the > name change thing go through. Without that certificate, my (and my son's > applications) would have been denied. > > As for taxes paid in both countries, if you earn money in both countries, > you pay taxes in both countries. The US is the only major country however > that taxes you on earnings overseas even if you haven't set foot in the US > for decades. And while there is an IRS tax credit for income earned > overseas, I don't know if that applies to capital gains taxes or other > forms of income besides earned income. The forms required to satisfy the > IRS are formidable and typically cost a few thousand dollars to complete if > you pay someone. > David > > On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-7, Jose Medeiros wrote: > >> Marylyn >> >> I would start with a birth certificate of your grandfather or grandmother >> born in Portugal, Açores or Madeira >> Then I would get a birth certicicate of your dad or mother that have the >> names of your grandfather and grandmother >> Last your own birth certificate with your dad and mother >> With these 3 documents there should not be any problems proving you are a >> decendant of Portuguese grandparents >> >> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:32:10 PM UTC-4, HK Pimental wrote: >>> >>> I suggest that you check the Portuguese Consulate webpage which is in >>> English >>> >>> Sent from Windows Mail >>> >>> *From:* Marilyn Thompson >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:58 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> Would you please post a list of the requirements? Not in full detail, >>> but enough so those who are considering applying will know if they meet the >>> requirements. Thanks >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:16 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I haave had much better experiences with the consulates. It is the rule >>>> that you must go to the consulate that is assigned your area. So, when we >>>> moved from Utah to Portugal 23 years ago we had to use the San Francisco >>>> Consulate. We could have done everything by mail but since it was >>>> convenient for us we went to SF for the final arrangements. We had no >>>> problems and the person in charge of visas was very accommodating and >>>> helpful. It has been our experience here in Portugal with the Serviço >>>> Estrangeiros and Fronteiras., SEF, that everyone has been very helpful >>>> whenever we have needed anything. I am applying for citizenship based on my >>>> great grandparents and my desire to live in Portugal. I have a lawyer and >>>> everything has been smooth so far. I may have to wait til I have been a >>>> residente 5 years unless they grant me a waiver. They occaionally do that >>>> if you live in the country and can prove that you have basic language >>>> proficiency and a desire to be a part of Portugal. I suggest that you have >>>> all of the proff you need and follow the instructions as the consulate >>>> gives them to you. I think that if you understand that it is a diferente >>>> country with defferent procedures and methods than the USA you will not >>>> have any problems. I have certainly found it to be true that I would rather >>>> deal with any Portuguese government employee than the department of motor >>>> vehicles in any US state😊 >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Jose Medeiros >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:43 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >>>> In dealings w/them very difficult and they think ( not all ) they are a >>>> superior being to you >>>> I am sure you will not show up at a consulate and say John Smith was my >>>> grandfather, born in the Azores and I desire Portuguese citizenship. >>>> You better have birth certificates of your family that ties all and all >>>> lead to you as the grandchild of your grandfather born in the Azores >>>> The consulates in USA especially in the East coast of USA are ridiculous >>>> I have a family member that lives in Minnesota and she has to go to >>>> Washington DC when she needs the consulate >>>> She comes often to Massachusetts yet the consulate in Boston WILL NOT >>>> let her do anything there >>>> She is lucky because she works for an airline and can get flights to >>>> Washington, DC but imagine taking all your family just to do a passport or >>>> whatever paper you need and they will not do it in Boston but you have to >>>> go to Washington,DC. >>>> RIDICULOUS >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 12:19:14 AM UTC-4, Ellen Ade wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How difficult? Are there consulates in the US? I currently have a euro >>>>> passport and Irish citizenship as my azores grandfather married my Irish >>>>> grandmother - both immigrated, so I am 2nd generation on both sides. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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