I though of that too Mary Ann, my fathers grandparents, all 4 were born in Madeira and Sao Miguel. I’m sure he could get it there, but my dad has no knowledge of the language. I don’t know if i can get it through great-grandparents on my own bypassing my father.
Denise > On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:35 PM, MaryAnn Santos <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think not. I have the same situation. But you can if you have grandparents > who are Portuguese nationals. The requirements are a bit more specific and > stringent - one knowledge of the language.... > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:24 PM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > If my grandfather naturalized in the US does that mean that my father and I > can not apply for the dual citizenship? > > Denise D’Antona > > >> On Aug 18, 2015, at 5:07 PM, David Perry <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I got Portuguese citizenship through the San Francisco consulate - my father >> was born in the Azores. After I received my citizenship, my son did the >> same thing in New York My having done it first made it easier for him. >> Actually, it was all pretty easy for both of us. The only glitch that might >> have been a problem was my father changed his name from Joao Pereira which >> was on his birth certificate to John Perry which was on my birth >> certificate. Fortunately, he had made an official name change back in 1939 >> and had a paper record to prove it. There was concern at the consulate that >> older records wouldn't fly in Lisbon - I had to get a recent BC for my >> father, the one he had from 1939 wouldn't fly - but they let the name change >> thing go through. Without that certificate, my (and my son's applications) >> would have been denied. >> >> As for taxes paid in both countries, if you earn money in both countries, >> you pay taxes in both countries. The US is the only major country however >> that taxes you on earnings overseas even if you haven't set foot in the US >> for decades. And while there is an IRS tax credit for income earned >> overseas, I don't know if that applies to capital gains taxes or other forms >> of income besides earned income. The forms required to satisfy the IRS are >> formidable and typically cost a few thousand dollars to complete if you pay >> someone. >> David >> >> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-7, Jose Medeiros wrote: >> Marylyn >> >> I would start with a birth certificate of your grandfather or grandmother >> born in Portugal, Açores or Madeira >> Then I would get a birth certicicate of your dad or mother that have the >> names of your grandfather and grandmother >> Last your own birth certificate with your dad and mother >> With these 3 documents there should not be any problems proving you are a >> decendant of Portuguese grandparents >> >> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:32:10 PM UTC-4, HK Pimental wrote: >> I suggest that you check the Portuguese Consulate webpage which is in English >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> >> From: Marilyn Thompson <> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:58 PM >> To: [email protected] <> >> >> Would you please post a list of the requirements? Not in full detail, but >> enough so those who are considering applying will know if they meet the >> requirements. Thanks >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:16 AM, <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> I haave had much better experiences with the consulates. It is the rule that >> you must go to the consulate that is assigned your area. So, when we moved >> from Utah to Portugal 23 years ago we had to use the San Francisco >> Consulate. We could have done everything by mail but since it was convenient >> for us we went to SF for the final arrangements. We had no problems and the >> person in charge of visas was very accommodating and helpful. It has been >> our experience here in Portugal with the Serviço Estrangeiros and >> Fronteiras., SEF, that everyone has been very helpful whenever we have >> needed anything. I am applying for citizenship based on my great >> grandparents and my desire to live in Portugal. I have a lawyer and >> everything has been smooth so far. I may have to wait til I have been a >> residente 5 years unless they grant me a waiver. They occaionally do that if >> you live in the country and can prove that you have basic language >> proficiency and a desire to be a part of Portugal. I suggest that you have >> all of the proff you need and follow the instructions as the consulate gives >> them to you. I think that if you understand that it is a diferente country >> with defferent procedures and methods than the USA you will not have any >> problems. I have certainly found it to be true that I would rather deal with >> any Portuguese government employee than the department of motor vehicles in >> any US state😊 >> >> >> From: Jose Medeiros <> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:43 PM >> To: [email protected] <> >> >> In dealings w/them very difficult and they think ( not all ) they are a >> superior being to you >> I am sure you will not show up at a consulate and say John Smith was my >> grandfather, born in the Azores and I desire Portuguese citizenship. >> You better have birth certificates of your family that ties all and all lead >> to you as the grandchild of your grandfather born in the Azores >> The consulates in USA especially in the East coast of USA are ridiculous >> I have a family member that lives in Minnesota and she has to go to >> Washington DC when she needs the consulate >> She comes often to Massachusetts yet the consulate in Boston WILL NOT let >> her do anything there >> She is lucky because she works for an airline and can get flights to >> Washington, DC but imagine taking all your family just to do a passport or >> whatever paper you need and they will not do it in Boston but you have to go >> to Washington,DC. >> RIDICULOUS >> >> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 12:19:14 AM UTC-4, Ellen Ade wrote: >> How difficult? 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