Here's a Santa Cruz, Flores marriage record of a Monica :
João Pimentel Canhoto [f.º de Manuel Pimentel Canhoto e de Inácia Rosa] c. 1816.08.12 c. Mónica Coelho [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência Rosa]. *If it's the same as in the baptism record, she'd be 20 yrs old* Here's Pedro Jose de Avelar's marriage record from Lajes das Flores: Pedro José de Avelar [n. Ponta Delgada, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.º de pai incógnito e de Florência Maria] c. 1813.02.18 c. Úrsula Joaquina [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Isabel Maria]. *If it was the same Pedro in the baptism record, he would be 20 years old* Here are marriage records of children of Florencia a single woman from Ponta Delgada, Flores Faustino José de Avelar [f.º de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher solteira] c. 1813.10.31 c. Úrsula Maria [f.ª de Joaquim de Sousa e de Mariana de Jesus]. *I think this is the brother to Pedro Jose de Avelar* José Álvares [f.º de Manuel Álvares, j. d., e de Mariana de Jesus] c. 1813.11.25 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de pai incógnito e de Florência, mulher solteira]. Eric Edgar On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:38 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that tracking down Florencia's baptism record , obit, or the > marriage record of either Pedro or Monica could provide some confirmation. > I tend to think it is the same mother. > > The 1792 to 1806 time frame would easily be in childbearing years. It is > also a time when many people left Corvo to settle in Flores. My ancestor , > Joao Antonio Vieira was born to a single mother in Corvo in 1789 > > and settled in Cedros by 1810. > > Slavery had been abolished in Continental Portugal in 1761, in Madeira in > 1775, and by 1800 was on the wane in the Azores, being banned in 1830. > > > The priest in the Claudia record of 1806, and the Monica record of 1796 is > Domingo Bernardo da Sylvera > > The priest in the Pedro record of 1792 is Antonio Lourenco Coelho > > Eric Edgar > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Theresa Entin <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Depending on how common the name Florencia appears in the records >> during that time frame of 13 years would determine to me if it was the same >> person. If it appears as a very uncommon name, then I would say they were >> the same person. >> >> Also, In order to make a good determination, I would check ten years >> prior to the birth of Pedro and 10 years after the birth of Claudia. >> >> Were you able to find the birth of Florencia, child of Maria in Corvo? >> If Maria was also a slave, that would help solving the puzzle. >> >> >> On Sep 30, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Kawika322 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There is a baptismal record I would like to have people's interpretation >> on. The record is for a Claudia born 7 Jul 1806 in Sao Pedro, Ponta >> Delgada, Flores. The mother is names Florencia, and I am trying to see if >> she may be the same Florencia who is the mother of my direct ancestor Pedro >> Jose Avellar who was born in 1793 in Ponta Delgada, Flores. I don't have >> any more info on Florencia such as a birth or death record, except that her >> mother's name is Maria Coelho from Corvo, which I got from the baptismal >> records of her children Pedro and Monica. >> >> If this is the same Florencia, her other children Pedro, and Monica, as >> well as a Faustino (whom I cannot find a birth record for) all had pai >> incognito fathers. >> >> This particular record may have additional information that could help me >> track down Florencia (if indeed it is the same woman). >> >> Any info or translation of what exactly the record says would be helpful. >> >> It is the record on the top right of the page: *Claudia*, no. 14: >> >> >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P209.html >> >> >> >> The links for the baptismal records for my direct ancestor Pedro Jose >> Avellar and his sister Monica Coelho (children of Florencia) are also below >> so that people can compare and see if they might be the same Florencia or >> not. >> >> *Pedro *(1793) : top right of page, no. 20: >> >> >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P146.html >> >> *Monica *(1796)*: *middle record, left side of page, no. 17 >> >> >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1758-1813_item1/P158.html >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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