Manuel M. Coelho's parents are:    Joe M. Coelho birthplace Portugal and
Mary Nazera (maiden name) birthplace Portugal.   Will this information be
of help to you?

Dave


On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:12 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote:

> Who are his parents?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Dave Worman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I agree that she was probably 13 years old when she married in 1923.
>>
>> The marriage certificate does not give specific residence addresses, just
>> Tulare for Velma M. Cotta and Tipton for the groom Manuel M Coelho.   The
>> parents addresses are not given at all - just their names and birthplaces.
>> The mother's of the bride and groom are listed by their maiden names.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:41 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>> I think the everchanging ages on censuses are due to languague confusion
>>> more than anything else.
>>>
>>> Thirteen years old with parental  consent was allowed then. My g
>>> grandmother was 13 when she married a 35 yr old in 1909 with her mother as
>>> the witness.
>>>
>>> This certificate confirms we are on the right track with the Joe M Cotta
>>> family. When the CCA site comes back online, I'll continue the passport
>>> search to locate them arriving in 1901 .
>>> Does it give the names of Manuel's parents, or ant adresses?
>>>
>>> EricE
>>> On Oct 20, 2015 8:02 AM, "Dave Worman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> Just received a copy of the Marriage Certificate for Velma M. Cotta and
>>>> Manuel M. Coelho on Oct. 13, 1923 in Tulare, Calif.   It shows her name as
>>>> *Velma* not Belmira even though the newspaper article listed her as
>>>> Belmira.
>>>>
>>>> Her parents are Joe M. Cotta - birthplace Portugal   and Mary Conceicao
>>>> - birthplace Portugal the same as the 1910 census.
>>>>
>>>> Now the fun part!   It shows Velma's age as 17 years old!!    The 1910
>>>> census clearly shows Belmira as 2/12 - 2 months old.    Do you suppose the
>>>> parents fudged a bit on her age?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:36 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm aware  alien residents were required to register. However,
>>>>> when someone lives in the US for 60 years and doesn't
>>>>>
>>>>> apply for citizenship, he's probably not filling out draft cards and
>>>>> Social Security either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe I've ruled out the Joe M Cotta, Jose Martin Cotta, and
>>>>> Joseph Machado Cotta in Tulare as the one we're looking for. They can all
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>> tracked to future censuses and vital records showing then with other
>>>>> families.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same is true with the brother Frank M ( Courter)  Cotta found in the
>>>>> household on the 1910  Kaweah, Tulare census. There are four Frank M Cotta
>>>>> around,
>>>>>
>>>>> none of those line up with the 1888 birthdate, and 1907 arrival.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Edgar
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric,  It didn't matter if you were an Alien or not, you filled out a
>>>>>> draft card in WWI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:55 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, Joe M Cotta can be found in Tulare in 1910. The 1930 census
>>>>>>> shows he is still an alien, so it's unlikey he would have a filled out a
>>>>>>> draft card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric Edgar
>>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2015 10:17 AM, "linda" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this may be Joe Cotta's WWI draft registration:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNK-LGB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found it the other evening and just realized that it is not one
>>>>>>>> of the records that has already been posted in the thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> L.
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