Yes, By identifying the parents, I may be able to postively identify Manuel , then Edward, son of Velma and him.
There is somone that ties this family to Orange County and San Bernardino. There are more than one M.Coelho family dairy farming in both places. I have not indentified what the M stands for. Martin, Macedo, Machado or other. Same for the M Cotta. Also tied to San Bernardino, as it was the Joe M Cotta death record place. Eric On Oct 21, 2015 8:10 AM, "Dave Worman" <[email protected]> wrote: > Manuel M. Coelho's parents are: Joe M. Coelho birthplace Portugal and > Mary Nazera (maiden name) birthplace Portugal. Will this information be > of help to you? > > Dave > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:12 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Who are his parents? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Dave Worman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> I agree that she was probably 13 years old when she married in 1923. >>> >>> The marriage certificate does not give specific residence addresses, >>> just Tulare for Velma M. Cotta and Tipton for the groom Manuel M Coelho. >>> The parents addresses are not given at all - just their names and >>> birthplaces. The mother's of the bride and groom are listed by their >>> maiden names. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:41 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dave, >>>> I think the everchanging ages on censuses are due to languague >>>> confusion more than anything else. >>>> >>>> Thirteen years old with parental consent was allowed then. My g >>>> grandmother was 13 when she married a 35 yr old in 1909 with her mother as >>>> the witness. >>>> >>>> This certificate confirms we are on the right track with the Joe M >>>> Cotta family. When the CCA site comes back online, I'll continue the >>>> passport search to locate them arriving in 1901 . >>>> Does it give the names of Manuel's parents, or ant adresses? >>>> >>>> EricE >>>> On Oct 20, 2015 8:02 AM, "Dave Worman" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eric, >>>>> Just received a copy of the Marriage Certificate for Velma M. Cotta >>>>> and Manuel M. Coelho on Oct. 13, 1923 in Tulare, Calif. It shows her >>>>> name >>>>> as *Velma* not Belmira even though the newspaper article listed her >>>>> as Belmira. >>>>> >>>>> Her parents are Joe M. Cotta - birthplace Portugal and Mary >>>>> Conceicao - birthplace Portugal the same as the 1910 census. >>>>> >>>>> Now the fun part! It shows Velma's age as 17 years old!! The 1910 >>>>> census clearly shows Belmira as 2/12 - 2 months old. Do you suppose the >>>>> parents fudged a bit on her age? >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:36 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I'm aware alien residents were required to register. However, >>>>>> when someone lives in the US for 60 years and doesn't >>>>>> >>>>>> apply for citizenship, he's probably not filling out draft cards and >>>>>> Social Security either. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe I've ruled out the Joe M Cotta, Jose Martin Cotta, and >>>>>> Joseph Machado Cotta in Tulare as the one we're looking for. They can all >>>>>> be >>>>>> >>>>>> tracked to future censuses and vital records showing then with other >>>>>> families. >>>>>> >>>>>> Same is true with the brother Frank M ( Courter) Cotta found in the >>>>>> household on the 1910 Kaweah, Tulare census. There are four Frank M >>>>>> Cotta >>>>>> around, >>>>>> >>>>>> none of those line up with the 1888 birthdate, and 1907 arrival. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Edgar >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric, It didn't matter if you were an Alien or not, you filled out >>>>>>> a draft card in WWI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rosemarie >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:55 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, Joe M Cotta can be found in Tulare in 1910. 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