Hi Lisa,

Here are the names that I see in the records:

Maria/record 41:
filha natural
father = Manuel Silveira de Souza Lucas, solteiro, carpinteiro
mother = Mariana Luiza, solteira, costureira
paternal gps = Manuel Silveira de Souza and Anna Luiza
maternal gps =  Antonio Jose Baleil and Maria Josefa

Francisca/ record 5:
filha natural 
father = Manoel Silveira Lucas, carpenteiro
mother = Marianna Josefa, empregada no governo domestico
paternal gps = Manoel Silveira de Sousa [Sa??a] and Anna Luisa
maternal gps = Antonio Jose [Bali??] and Maria Josefa

Marianna/ record 6:
filha natural
father = Manoel Silveira Lucas, carpinteiro
mother = Marianna Josefa, empregada no governo domestico
paternal gps = Manoel Silveira de Sousa Salsa and Anna Louisa
maternal gps = Antonio Jose [Bolai?] and Maria Josefa, ja defuntos

Despite the inconsistencies, I'd say these records are all from the same 
family.  I'm sorry, I don't know what the maternal grandparent's surname 
might be.

I hope that helps to answer your questions.

Linda


On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 7:05:11 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>
> I didn't get a response on this question using a different subject line, 
> so I am trying something new.  Hoping someone more familiar with the names 
> and handwriting can help me make sense of these records and either verify 
> that it is my family or that I am on the wrong track with the 1873 records 
> for Francisca and Marianna.  I am fairly certain that the father and 
> paternal grandparents on these records are my ggrandfather's sibling and 
> parents, BUT the father's last name is de Souza on the earlier record 
> (1867, #41 Maria), but it looks like it could be Lucas or Lemos?? on the 
> later records (1873).  The paternal grandfather's name looks like Manuel 
> Silveira de Souza Salsa (what?) on the 1873 records.  The last name of the 
> maternal grandfather looks like Balaine on the 1873 records; on the 1867 
> record it looked like Baliel to me.  Oh, and the maternal grandmother's 
> name was Mariana Luiza on the 1867 record and now it is Marianna Josefa. 
>  Is this totally the wrong family?  Did the priest make some mistakes? 
>  (too much vinho as Cheri would say)   
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1861-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1861-1870_item1/P192.html
>    number 41 Maria on the right
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1871-1880_item1/P48.html
>    
> number 5 Francisca on the right
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-B-1871-1880_item1/P49.html
>    
> number 6 Marianna on the left
>
> And if anyone has any idea what the side note says on the 1867 record, 
> that would be a bonus.
>
> Thank you again!  
>
> Lisa
>

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