:D "Blayer" stands out from all the "Silveiras" "Pereiras" and "Machados"!
I'm happy to have helped, Linda On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 3:32:28 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote: > > Once again, more than I expected. Thank you for thinking of my search > when you saw this and sharing it. Don't think I ever would have found > that. Another piece of information. :) > > Lisa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: linda <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: Azores Genealogy <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 10:21 pm > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help > > I just came across a reference to the Blayer family in "Genealogias de Sao > Jorge": > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P57.html > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P27.html > > :) > > Linda > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:33:34 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Wow! so much more help than I could have asked for. Thank you all. >> On the baptism I posted that states ja defunto, I thought that only would >> pertain to Maria Josefa since it was stated immediately following her name. >> Those maternal grandparents (Antonio & Maria) are not in my direct line >> but this gives me more good information to follow up on. Also, I noticed >> on Maria Josefa's obito the surname that I am unsure about on Marianna & >> Francisca's baptisms; it still looks like Lucas to me. Could that be >> correct? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: linda meneses <[email protected]> >> To: azores <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 11:59 am >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help >> >> Whoohoo! mystery solved :^D >> >> Love it!-- truth is much better than lame speculation. Thanks! >> >> Linda >> >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:41 AM, 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Blayer surname comes from the descendants of a Joseph Blayer, born St. >>> Martin in the Fields, London England and died in Velas, s. Jorge Jul 22 >>> 1747. He married Maria Faustiina da Silveira, born in Urzelina, s. Jorge. >>> Today there are descendants who carry this surname. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 2:07 PM, linda <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Huh! That's interesting. >>> >>> I just did a quick search through the Terceira Marriage Index for "bali" >>> and "bale" and the names that came up were "Baliero/a", "Baleeiro/a" and >>> Balencio. >>> >>> In the baptismal records, I still see "Bal---", but the Obits definitely >>> look like "Blaer"! >>> >>> TOTAL SPECULATION :) The same priest recorded the obits and the first >>> baptism; a second priest recorded the second two baptisms. I wonder if it >>> was an unusual name for Velas/Sao Jorge, and if the priests were spelling >>> it phonetically how they heard the parishioners pronounce it? It's not a >>> very common name in the Terceira-- and seems to be mostly concentrated in >>> the 1600's in a few locations-- and didn't show up at all in the Flores >>> Index. Perhaps as Lisa goes back along that line she'll find an ancestor >>> who moved from Terceira to Velas; one or two of mine moved the other way, >>> from Velas to Terceira. I wonder if her ancestors were whalers or if the >>> name comes from some thing/where else? >>> >>> fascinating stuff! >>> >>> thanks Bill and Lisa! >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:13:24 AM UTC-8, [email protected] >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> In the 1867 baptism of Maria, I think the Maternal grandfather's name >>>> looks to me like Antonio Jose Baliel. I had never seen this name "Baliel" >>>> before, but on Ancestry it does show some immigrant passengers from Faial >>>> to Boston in the early 1800s so the name did exist in the Azores. The >>>> other >>>> two records though the name looks more like "Blair", a common name but not >>>> a Portuguese name so I'm not sure what to make of that. I do agree with >>>> Linda though that they are likely the same person. >>>> >>>> Another thing I found interesting is that the last two baptisms were on >>>> the same day, but the priest only said "ja defunctos" for the last. I >>>> found Maria Joesfa in Nov 1872 >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880_item1/P23.html; >>>> >>>> It says she is the widow of what looks like Antonio Jose Blair (or Blaer), >>>> just like on the 1873 baptisms. I found Antonio Jose's in December 1870 >>>> here: >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870_item1/P163.html >>>> and >>>> the name appears to be Blair or Blaer here also. >>>> >>>> The priest may have made a mistake on the 1873 baptism by writing >>>> Marianna Luiza instead of Marianna Josefa; or Marianna Luiza started using >>>> the name Josefa instead of Luiza. >>>> >>>> Bill Seidler >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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