Once again, more than I expected. Thank you for thinking of my search when you saw this and sharing it. Don't think I ever would have found that. Another piece of information. :)
Lisa -----Original Message----- From: linda <menesesli...@gmail.com> To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 10:21 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help I just came across a reference to the Blayer family in "Genealogias de Sao Jorge": http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P57.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P27.html :) Linda On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:33:34 PM UTC-8, themo...@aol.com wrote: Wow! so much more help than I could have asked for. Thank you all. On the baptism I posted that states ja defunto, I thought that only would pertain to Maria Josefa since it was stated immediately following her name. Those maternal grandparents (Antonio & Maria) are not in my direct line but this gives me more good information to follow up on. Also, I noticed on Maria Josefa's obito the surname that I am unsure about on Marianna & Francisca's baptisms; it still looks like Lucas to me. Could that be correct? -----Original Message----- From: linda meneses <menese...@gmail.com> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 11:59 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help Whoohoo! mystery solved :^D Love it!-- truth is much better than lame speculation. Thanks! Linda On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:41 AM, 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote: Blayer surname comes from the descendants of a Joseph Blayer, born St. Martin in the Fields, London England and died in Velas, s. Jorge Jul 22 1747. He married Maria Faustiina da Silveira, born in Urzelina, s. Jorge. Today there are descendants who carry this surname. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2016, at 2:07 PM, linda <menese...@gmail.com> wrote: Huh! That's interesting. I just did a quick search through the Terceira Marriage Index for "bali" and "bale" and the names that came up were "Baliero/a", "Baleeiro/a" and Balencio. In the baptismal records, I still see "Bal---", but the Obits definitely look like "Blaer"! TOTAL SPECULATION :) The same priest recorded the obits and the first baptism; a second priest recorded the second two baptisms. I wonder if it was an unusual name for Velas/Sao Jorge, and if the priests were spelling it phonetically how they heard the parishioners pronounce it? It's not a very common name in the Terceira-- and seems to be mostly concentrated in the 1600's in a few locations-- and didn't show up at all in the Flores Index. Perhaps as Lisa goes back along that line she'll find an ancestor who moved from Terceira to Velas; one or two of mine moved the other way, from Velas to Terceira. I wonder if her ancestors were whalers or if the name comes from some thing/where else? fascinating stuff! thanks Bill and Lisa! Linda On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:13:24 AM UTC-8, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: In the 1867 baptism of Maria, I think the Maternal grandfather's name looks to me like Antonio Jose Baliel. I had never seen this name "Baliel" before, but on Ancestry it does show some immigrant passengers from Faial to Boston in the early 1800s so the name did exist in the Azores. The other two records though the name looks more like "Blair", a common name but not a Portuguese name so I'm not sure what to make of that. I do agree with Linda though that they are likely the same person. Another thing I found interesting is that the last two baptisms were on the same day, but the priest only said "ja defunctos" for the last. I found Maria Joesfa in Nov 1872 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880_item1/P23.html; It says she is the widow of what looks like Antonio Jose Blair (or Blaer), just like on the 1873 baptisms. I found Antonio Jose's in December 1870 here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870_item1/P163.html and the name appears to be Blair or Blaer here also. The priest may have made a mistake on the 1873 baptism by writing Marianna Luiza instead of Marianna Josefa; or Marianna Luiza started using the name Josefa instead of Luiza. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. 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