Whoohoo!  mystery solved :^D

Love it!-- truth is much better than lame speculation.  Thanks!

Linda

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:41 AM, 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Blayer surname comes from the descendants of a Joseph Blayer, born  St.
> Martin in the Fields, London England and died in Velas, s. Jorge Jul 22
> 1747. He married Maria Faustiina da Silveira, born in Urzelina, s. Jorge.
> Today there are descendants who carry this surname.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 30, 2016, at 2:07 PM, linda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Huh!  That's interesting.
>
> I just did a quick search through the Terceira Marriage Index for "bali"
> and "bale" and the names that came up were "Baliero/a", "Baleeiro/a" and
> Balencio.
>
> In the baptismal records, I still see "Bal---", but the Obits definitely
> look like "Blaer"!
>
> TOTAL SPECULATION :) The same priest recorded the obits and the first
> baptism; a second priest recorded the second two baptisms.  I wonder if it
> was an unusual name for Velas/Sao Jorge, and if the priests were spelling
> it phonetically how they heard the parishioners pronounce it?   It's not a
> very common name in the Terceira-- and seems to be mostly concentrated in
> the 1600's in a few locations-- and didn't show up at all in the Flores
> Index.   Perhaps as Lisa goes back along that line she'll find an ancestor
> who moved from Terceira to Velas; one or two of mine moved the other way,
> from Velas to Terceira.  I wonder if her ancestors were whalers or if the
> name comes from some thing/where else?
>
> fascinating stuff!
>
> thanks Bill and Lisa!
>
> Linda
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:13:24 AM UTC-8, [email protected]
> wrote:
>>
>> In the 1867 baptism of Maria, I think the Maternal grandfather's name
>> looks to me like Antonio Jose Baliel.  I had never seen this name "Baliel"
>> before, but on Ancestry it does show some immigrant passengers from Faial
>> to Boston in the early 1800s so the name did exist in the Azores. The other
>> two records though the name looks more like "Blair", a common name but not
>> a Portuguese name so I'm not sure what to make of that.  I do agree with
>> Linda though that they are likely the same person.
>>
>> Another thing I found interesting is that the last two baptisms were on
>> the same day, but the priest only said "ja defunctos" for the last.  I
>> found Maria Joesfa in Nov 1872
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880_item1/P23.html;
>> It says she is the widow of what looks like Antonio Jose Blair (or Blaer),
>> just like on the 1873 baptisms.  I found Antonio Jose's in December 1870
>> here:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870_item1/P163.html
>>  and
>> the name appears to be Blair or Blaer here also.
>>
>> The priest may have made a mistake on the 1873 baptism by writing
>> Marianna Luiza instead of Marianna Josefa; or Marianna Luiza started using
>> the name Josefa instead of Luiza.
>>
>> Bill Seidler
>>
>>
>>
>>
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