Another Blayer decendent, I think: http://arqhist.exercito.pt/germil/details?id=25353
http://arqhist.exercito.pt/germil/details?id=25462 :) L. On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 8:45:11 PM UTC-8, linda wrote: > > :D > > "Blayer" stands out from all the "Silveiras" "Pereiras" and "Machados"! > > I'm happy to have helped, > > Linda > > On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 3:32:28 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Once again, more than I expected. Thank you for thinking of my search >> when you saw this and sharing it. Don't think I ever would have found >> that. Another piece of information. :) >> >> Lisa >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: linda <[email protected]> >> To: Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 10:21 pm >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help >> >> I just came across a reference to the Blayer family in "Genealogias de >> Sao Jorge": >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P57.html >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P27.html >> >> :) >> >> Linda >> >> >> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:33:34 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Wow! so much more help than I could have asked for. Thank you all. >>> On the baptism I posted that states ja defunto, I thought that only >>> would pertain to Maria Josefa since it was stated immediately following her >>> name. Those maternal grandparents (Antonio & Maria) are not in my direct >>> line but this gives me more good information to follow up on. Also, I >>> noticed on Maria Josefa's obito the surname that I am unsure about on >>> Marianna & Francisca's baptisms; it still looks like Lucas to me. Could >>> that be correct? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: linda meneses <[email protected]> >>> To: azores <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 11:59 am >>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help >>> >>> Whoohoo! mystery solved :^D >>> >>> Love it!-- truth is much better than lame speculation. Thanks! >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:41 AM, 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Blayer surname comes from the descendants of a Joseph Blayer, born St. >>>> Martin in the Fields, London England and died in Velas, s. Jorge Jul 22 >>>> 1747. He married Maria Faustiina da Silveira, born in Urzelina, s. Jorge. >>>> Today there are descendants who carry this surname. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 2:07 PM, linda <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Huh! That's interesting. >>>> >>>> I just did a quick search through the Terceira Marriage Index for >>>> "bali" and "bale" and the names that came up were "Baliero/a", >>>> "Baleeiro/a" >>>> and Balencio. >>>> >>>> In the baptismal records, I still see "Bal---", but the Obits >>>> definitely look like "Blaer"! >>>> >>>> TOTAL SPECULATION :) The same priest recorded the obits and the first >>>> baptism; a second priest recorded the second two baptisms. I wonder if it >>>> was an unusual name for Velas/Sao Jorge, and if the priests were spelling >>>> it phonetically how they heard the parishioners pronounce it? It's not a >>>> very common name in the Terceira-- and seems to be mostly concentrated in >>>> the 1600's in a few locations-- and didn't show up at all in the Flores >>>> Index. Perhaps as Lisa goes back along that line she'll find an ancestor >>>> who moved from Terceira to Velas; one or two of mine moved the other way, >>>> from Velas to Terceira. I wonder if her ancestors were whalers or if the >>>> name comes from some thing/where else? >>>> >>>> fascinating stuff! >>>> >>>> thanks Bill and Lisa! >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> >>>> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:13:24 AM UTC-8, [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In the 1867 baptism of Maria, I think the Maternal grandfather's name >>>>> looks to me like Antonio Jose Baliel. I had never seen this name >>>>> "Baliel" >>>>> before, but on Ancestry it does show some immigrant passengers from Faial >>>>> to Boston in the early 1800s so the name did exist in the Azores. The >>>>> other >>>>> two records though the name looks more like "Blair", a common name but >>>>> not >>>>> a Portuguese name so I'm not sure what to make of that. I do agree with >>>>> Linda though that they are likely the same person. >>>>> >>>>> Another thing I found interesting is that the last two baptisms were >>>>> on the same day, but the priest only said "ja defunctos" for the last. I >>>>> found Maria Joesfa in Nov 1872 >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880_item1/P23.html; >>>>> >>>>> It says she is the widow of what looks like Antonio Jose Blair (or >>>>> Blaer), >>>>> just like on the 1873 baptisms. I found Antonio Jose's in December 1870 >>>>> here: >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870_item1/P163.html >>>>> and >>>>> the name appears to be Blair or Blaer here also. >>>>> >>>>> The priest may have made a mistake on the 1873 baptism by writing >>>>> Marianna Luiza instead of Marianna Josefa; or Marianna Luiza started >>>>> using >>>>> the name Josefa instead of Luiza. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Seidler >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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