I just came across a reference to the Blayer family in "Genealogias de Sao Jorge":
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P57.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR/GENEALOGIAS-SAOJORGE-JOSEAVELAR_item1/P27.html :) Linda On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 6:33:34 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote: > > Wow! so much more help than I could have asked for. Thank you all. > On the baptism I posted that states ja defunto, I thought that only would > pertain to Maria Josefa since it was stated immediately following her name. > Those maternal grandparents (Antonio & Maria) are not in my direct line > but this gives me more good information to follow up on. Also, I noticed > on Maria Josefa's obito the surname that I am unsure about on Marianna & > Francisca's baptisms; it still looks like Lucas to me. Could that be > correct? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: linda meneses <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: azores <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 11:59 am > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velas, Sao Jorge records help > > Whoohoo! mystery solved :^D > > Love it!-- truth is much better than lame speculation. Thanks! > > Linda > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:41 AM, 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Blayer surname comes from the descendants of a Joseph Blayer, born St. >> Martin in the Fields, London England and died in Velas, s. Jorge Jul 22 >> 1747. He married Maria Faustiina da Silveira, born in Urzelina, s. Jorge. >> Today there are descendants who carry this surname. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 30, 2016, at 2:07 PM, linda <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> >> Huh! That's interesting. >> >> I just did a quick search through the Terceira Marriage Index for "bali" >> and "bale" and the names that came up were "Baliero/a", "Baleeiro/a" and >> Balencio. >> >> In the baptismal records, I still see "Bal---", but the Obits definitely >> look like "Blaer"! >> >> TOTAL SPECULATION :) The same priest recorded the obits and the first >> baptism; a second priest recorded the second two baptisms. I wonder if it >> was an unusual name for Velas/Sao Jorge, and if the priests were spelling >> it phonetically how they heard the parishioners pronounce it? It's not a >> very common name in the Terceira-- and seems to be mostly concentrated in >> the 1600's in a few locations-- and didn't show up at all in the Flores >> Index. Perhaps as Lisa goes back along that line she'll find an ancestor >> who moved from Terceira to Velas; one or two of mine moved the other way, >> from Velas to Terceira. I wonder if her ancestors were whalers or if the >> name comes from some thing/where else? >> >> fascinating stuff! >> >> thanks Bill and Lisa! >> >> Linda >> >> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:13:24 AM UTC-8, [email protected] >> wrote: >>> >>> In the 1867 baptism of Maria, I think the Maternal grandfather's name >>> looks to me like Antonio Jose Baliel. I had never seen this name "Baliel" >>> before, but on Ancestry it does show some immigrant passengers from Faial >>> to Boston in the early 1800s so the name did exist in the Azores. The other >>> two records though the name looks more like "Blair", a common name but not >>> a Portuguese name so I'm not sure what to make of that. I do agree with >>> Linda though that they are likely the same person. >>> >>> Another thing I found interesting is that the last two baptisms were on >>> the same day, but the priest only said "ja defunctos" for the last. I >>> found Maria Joesfa in Nov 1872 >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1871-1880_item1/P23.html; >>> >>> It says she is the widow of what looks like Antonio Jose Blair (or Blaer), >>> just like on the 1873 baptisms. I found Antonio Jose's in December 1870 >>> here: >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870/SJR-VL-VELAS-O-1860-1870_item1/P163.html >>> and >>> the name appears to be Blair or Blaer here also. >>> >>> The priest may have made a mistake on the 1873 baptism by writing >>> Marianna Luiza instead of Marianna Josefa; or Marianna Luiza started using >>> the name Josefa instead of Luiza. >>> >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>> >>> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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