Hi Carmen,

I didn't find it eighter.  One thing I noticed is that the couple having
the children you listed the mother's name is Teresa.  Your listing
Francisca's mom as Mary Nunes.  That seems to indicate a different couple
or wife.

Found her listed in Horta, passport # 309, which confirms her birth year to
be 1889, link below.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P224.html

I also think this is your Francisca, since it matches the birthdate
05-Mar-1889 and surname "Nunes" and mother "Maria". Take a look at the
name...Ana, crazy, right? But possible if she went by Ana Francisca and
used Francisca instead.

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890_item1/P116.html



Margaret

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:40 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> hi margaret
>
> i got her parents names from her marriage and death records and her birth
> date and birthplace from her citizenship papers from massachusetts records
>
> then i went to the azores web page pico-magdelena-bandeiros looking for
> her baptism record
>
> thanks
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
> Carmen M. Furtado
> 4 Gray Avenue
> Kingston, Massachusetts 02364-2213 USA
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
>  To: "azores" <[email protected]>
>  Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 4:57 PM
>
>  Carmen,
>  In order
>  to try to help I would like to ask re Francisca Nunes da
>  Silva, how did you get the parents names?  It seems
>  you're not quite certain...
>  Are you tracing back from her
>  marriage documentation or children's birth records in
>  the US? You seem to have her approximate birth timeline of
>  1889.
>  Regarding the
>  two links with Maria's birth records.  Those are the
>  same record.  One book is a duplicate...confusing, even
>  some of the dates don't jive with the headings of the
>  book..
>  Margaret
>
>  On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
>  2:24 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]>
>  wrote:
>  thank you
>  everybody
>
>
>
>  Manuel Nunes da Silveira    age 37
>
>  married july 28 1882
>
>  Theresa de Jesus    age 23
>
>  his parents
>
>  Francisco Nunes da Silveira and
>  Theresa Francisca
>
>  her parents
>
>  Jose Pereira da Silveira and
>  Maria Victoria
>
>
>
>  francesca nunes da silva arrived in america 1906 from
>  pico - born circa 1889
>
>  she married 1907 - parents manuel da silva and maria nunes -
>  born circa 1889
>
>  visited pico 1933 - mother mary nunes silva - born circa
>  1889
>
>  naturalized 1943 - birthdate march 5 1889 - birthplace
>  bandeiras
>
>  died 1943 - parents manuel da silvia and maria nunes
>
>
>
>  i couldn't find a baptismal record for francesca - i
>  checked every single page on two separate listings
>
>
>
>  i found these children for manuel and theresa
>
>  manuel born 1885
>
>  maria born 1888
>
>  victoria born 1891
>
>  jose born 1892
>
>
>
>  maria's baptism - february 1888
>
>  http://www.culturacores.
>  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>  1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>  1874-1895_item1/P79.html
>
>  http://www.culturacores.
>  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>  1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>  1873-1890_item1/P107.html
>
>
>
>  as you can see the birthdates don't match up
>
>
>
>  do you think manuel nunes da silva and theresa francisca are
>  francisca's parents?
>
>
>
>  if not, what names should i search for?
>
>
>
>  thank you
>
>
>
>  Carmen M. Furtado
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------ --------------
>
>  On Sun, 8/21/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
>  Genealogy <[email protected]>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
>  TRANSLATION
>
>   To: [email protected]
>
>   Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016, 2:22 PM
>
>
>
>   http://www.culturacores.
>  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
>  1875-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
>  1875-1890_item1/P34.html
>
>
>
>   hi everyone
>
>
>
>   i need help with the marriage for manuel nunes da silva
>  and
>
>   theresa de jesus?
>
>
>
>   july 8 don't know the year
>
>
>
>   can't make out parents names
>
>
>
>   maria victoria ?
>
>
>
>   thank you
>
>
>
>   Carmen M. Furtado
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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