hi margaret

thank you - thank you - thank you

that is francesca !

thanks for the passport too

i'm going to have to check more birth dates to see if francesca's mother had 
any more children before or after she got married

will let you know how i make out

thanks

Carmen M. Furtado 

  
   
                

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On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" <[email protected]>
 Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
 
 Hi
 Carmen,
 I didn't find it
 eighter.  One thing I noticed is that the couple having the
 children you listed the mother's name is Teresa.  Your
 listing Francisca's mom as Mary Nunes.  That seems to
 indicate a different couple or wife.  
 Found her listed in Horta, passport
 # 309, which confirms her birth year to be 1889, link
 below.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P224.html
 
 I also
 think this is your Francisca, since it matches the birthdate
 05-Mar-1889 and surname "Nunes" and mother
 "Maria". Take a look at the name...Ana, crazy,
 right? But possible if she went by Ana Francisca and used
 Francisca instead.  
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890_item1/P116.html
 
 
 
 Margaret
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
 5:40 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 i got her parents names from her marriage and death records
 and her birth date and birthplace from her citizenship
 papers from massachusetts records
 
 
 
 then i went to the azores web page pico-magdelena-bandeiros
 looking for her baptism record
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Carmen M. Furtado
 
 4 Gray Avenue
 
 Kingston, Massachusetts 02364-2213 USA
 
 
 
  
 
                
 
 
 
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 On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" <[email protected]>
 
  Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 4:57 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen, 
 
  In order
 
  to try to help I would like to ask re Francisca Nunes
 da
 
  Silva, how did you get the parents names?  It seems
 
  you're not quite certain...
 
  Are you tracing back from her
 
  marriage documentation or children's birth records
 in
 
  the US? You seem to have her approximate birth timeline
 of
 
  1889.
 
  Regarding the
 
  two links with Maria's birth records.  Those are
 the
 
  same record.  One book is a duplicate...confusing,
 even
 
  some of the dates don't jive with the headings of
 the
 
  book..
 
  Margaret
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
 
  2:24 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 <[email protected]>
 
  wrote:
 
  thank you
 
  everybody
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Manuel Nunes da Silveira    age 37
 
 
 
  married july 28 1882
 
 
 
  Theresa de Jesus    age 23
 
 
 
  his parents
 
 
 
  Francisco Nunes da Silveira and
 
  Theresa Francisca
 
 
 
  her parents
 
 
 
  Jose Pereira da Silveira and
 
  Maria Victoria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francesca nunes da silva arrived in america 1906 from
 
  pico - born circa 1889
 
 
 
  she married 1907 - parents manuel da silva and maria nunes
 -
 
  born circa 1889
 
 
 
  visited pico 1933 - mother mary nunes silva - born
 circa
 
  1889
 
 
 
  naturalized 1943 - birthdate march 5 1889 - birthplace
 
  bandeiras
 
 
 
  died 1943 - parents manuel da silvia and maria nunes
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i couldn't find a baptismal record for francesca -
 i
 
  checked every single page on two separate listings
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i found these children for manuel and theresa
 
 
 
  manuel born 1885
 
 
 
  maria born 1888
 
 
 
  victoria born 1891
 
 
 
  jose born 1892
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  maria's baptism - february 1888
 
 
 
  http://www.culturacores.
 
  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
 digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1874-1895_item1/P79.html
 
 
 
  http://www.culturacores.
 
  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
 digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
 
  1873-1890_item1/P107.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  as you can see the birthdates don't match up
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  do you think manuel nunes da silva and theresa francisca
 are
 
  francisca's parents?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  if not, what names should i search for?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
                 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  On Sun, 8/21/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 
  Genealogy <[email protected]>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: [email protected]
 
 
 
   Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016, 2:22 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   http://www.culturacores.
 
  azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
 digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
 
  1875-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
 
  1875-1890_item1/P34.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   hi everyone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i need help with the marriage for manuel nunes da
 silva
 
  and
 
 
 
   theresa de jesus?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   july 8 don't know the year
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   can't make out parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   maria victoria ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen M. Furtado
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
     
 
 
 
                  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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