Glad to hear it, Carmen.

Good luck... :)

Margaret


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> hi margaret
>
> thank you - thank you - thank you
>
> that is francesca !
>
> thanks for the passport too
>
> i'm going to have to check more birth dates to see if francesca's mother
> had any more children before or after she got married
>
> will let you know how i make out
>
> thanks
>
> Carmen M. Furtado
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
>  To: "azores" <[email protected]>
>  Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
>
>  Hi
>  Carmen,
>  I didn't find it
>  eighter.  One thing I noticed is that the couple having the
>  children you listed the mother's name is Teresa.  Your
>  listing Francisca's mom as Mary Nunes.  That seems to
>  indicate a different couple or wife.
>  Found her listed in Horta, passport
>  # 309, which confirms her birth year to be 1889, link
>  below.
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
> PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P224.html
>
>  I also
>  think this is your Francisca, since it matches the birthdate
>  05-Mar-1889 and surname "Nunes" and mother
>  "Maria". Take a look at the name...Ana, crazy,
>  right? But possible if she went by Ana Francisca and used
>  Francisca instead.
>  http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
> digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
> 1873-1890_item1/P116.html
>
>
>
>  Margaret
>  On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
>  5:40 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <[email protected]>
>  wrote:
>  hi
>  margaret
>
>
>
>  i got her parents names from her marriage and death records
>  and her birth date and birthplace from her citizenship
>  papers from massachusetts records
>
>
>
>  then i went to the azores web page pico-magdelena-bandeiros
>  looking for her baptism record
>
>
>
>  thanks
>
>
>
>  carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Carmen M. Furtado
>
>  4 Gray Avenue
>
>  Kingston, Massachusetts 02364-2213 USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>  On Tue, 8/23/16, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
>  TRANSLATION
>
>   To: "azores" <[email protected]>
>
>   Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 4:57 PM
>
>
>
>   Carmen,
>
>   In order
>
>   to try to help I would like to ask re Francisca Nunes
>  da
>
>   Silva, how did you get the parents names?  It seems
>
>   you're not quite certain...
>
>   Are you tracing back from her
>
>   marriage documentation or children's birth records
>  in
>
>   the US? You seem to have her approximate birth timeline
>  of
>
>   1889.
>
>   Regarding the
>
>   two links with Maria's birth records.  Those are
>  the
>
>   same record.  One book is a duplicate...confusing,
>  even
>
>   some of the dates don't jive with the headings of
>  the
>
>   book..
>
>   Margaret
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at
>
>   2:24 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
>  <[email protected]>
>
>   wrote:
>
>   thank you
>
>   everybody
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Manuel Nunes da Silveira    age 37
>
>
>
>   married july 28 1882
>
>
>
>   Theresa de Jesus    age 23
>
>
>
>   his parents
>
>
>
>   Francisco Nunes da Silveira and
>
>   Theresa Francisca
>
>
>
>   her parents
>
>
>
>   Jose Pereira da Silveira and
>
>   Maria Victoria
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   francesca nunes da silva arrived in america 1906 from
>
>   pico - born circa 1889
>
>
>
>   she married 1907 - parents manuel da silva and maria nunes
>  -
>
>   born circa 1889
>
>
>
>   visited pico 1933 - mother mary nunes silva - born
>  circa
>
>   1889
>
>
>
>   naturalized 1943 - birthdate march 5 1889 - birthplace
>
>   bandeiras
>
>
>
>   died 1943 - parents manuel da silvia and maria nunes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   i couldn't find a baptismal record for francesca -
>  i
>
>   checked every single page on two separate listings
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   i found these children for manuel and theresa
>
>
>
>   manuel born 1885
>
>
>
>   maria born 1888
>
>
>
>   victoria born 1891
>
>
>
>   jose born 1892
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   maria's baptism - february 1888
>
>
>
>   http://www.culturacores.
>
>   azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
>  digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>
>   1874-1895/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>
>   1874-1895_item1/P79.html
>
>
>
>   http://www.culturacores.
>
>   azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
>  digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>
>   1873-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-B-
>
>   1873-1890_item1/P107.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   as you can see the birthdates don't match up
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   do you think manuel nunes da silva and theresa francisca
>  are
>
>   francisca's parents?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   if not, what names should i search for?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   thank you
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Carmen M. Furtado
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>   On Sun, 8/21/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
>
>   Genealogy <[email protected]>
>
>   wrote:
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>    Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
>
>   TRANSLATION
>
>
>
>    To: [email protected]
>
>
>
>    Date: Sunday, August 21, 2016, 2:22 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    http://www.culturacores.
>
>   azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
>  digital/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
>
>   1875-1890/PIC-MD-BANDEIRAS-C-
>
>   1875-1890_item1/P34.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    hi everyone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    i need help with the marriage for manuel nunes da
>  silva
>
>   and
>
>
>
>    theresa de jesus?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    july 8 don't know the year
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    can't make out parents names
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    maria victoria ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    thank you
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    Carmen M. Furtado
>
>
>
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