Or it's the papers of the wrong Manuel Resendes. The naturalization laws changed a lot over the years. I don't know what they laws were off the top of my head for the mid-1800s. I do know that the rule Rosemarie stated was still in effect in the 1940s. I helped a friend with his genealogy and his dad, born in Poland in the 1920s, obtained his citizenship via his dad's citizenship, who was filed earlier.
Try these: "*Locating Your Immigrant Ancestor*" by James C. Neagles and Lile Lee Neagles. "*American Naturalization Processes and Procedures 1790- 1985*" by John J. Newman. "*A Guide to Naturalization Records of the United States*" by Christina K. Schaefer. (All of these are probably available in your public library). I'm going to contact Marian on your behalf as well. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes, and from what you wrote his children moved to the USA on his father's > "Naturalisation" papers. Papers of someone that "never" went to the USA, > someone that was "naturalised", right? > > These rights could only be acquired through *a*) a *born* American > Citizen (which he's not) or* b*) a son/daughter of an American citizen, > naturalised through the parents. That's why I'm suggesting you're looking > in the wrong direction and should instead be looking at his parents and > grandparents history. > > One other factor that may be relevant, is what was his profession in Ponta > Delgada? Also presuming this to be in the island of Sao Miguel. > > Someone in this list may be able to assist if you provide the specifics > i.e. place and date of his birth and his parents names. > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There's something not right about this. I'll see if I can put you in >> contact with Marian Smith of the USCIS. She's the one who has worked for >> them for years (going back to the INS days) and she does genealogy lectures >> too. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Di <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> thanks for your replies! so speedy, too! >>> >>> here's the thing that has me confused: my great-grandfather never lived >>> in the United States. He was born in Ponta Delgada, died there, and spent >>> his whole life there, yet somewhere along the way was granted US >>> citizenship. that's the piece that seems mysterious. His sons (my >>> grandfather & great-uncles) came to the US and lived in & around East >>> Cambridge, MA. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 8:03:20 AM UTC-7, Di wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone! >>>> >>>> I'm new to the group and this is my first post. In reading your posts & >>>> replies, I'm so impressed with the depth of knowledge here and the >>>> commitment & dedication to the research! And special appreciation to Cheri >>>> Mello for managing the listserv - what a labor of love. >>>> >>>> Here's what I'm trying to figure out: >>>> >>>> My great-grandfather, *Manuel Rezendes (Resendes)* was born in Ponta >>>> Delgada around 1869. He died in Ponta Delgada in 1927. I have a document >>>> from the American Consulate, "Report on the Death of An American Citizen" >>>> about him. So we know at some point, he was granted citizenship, even >>>> though he never took advantage of it. >>>> >>>> It's 'derivative papers,' meaning that the grant of citizenship was for >>>> him and his children. So his five children were born with Portuguese AND >>>> US citizenship - which is how my avô and his brothers emigrated without >>>> having to be naturalized. >>>> >>>> On the passenger manifest for the ship my avô came over on, he is >>>> listed as a US citizen (under 'Court of Naturalization,' it lists his home >>>> address and the notation *'through father's papers'*). >>>> >>>> I'm trying to track down the circumstances of how my great-grandfather >>>> was granted the US citizenship. I've called the Consulate (they told me >>>> they don't keep the paperwork after 20 years). Recently while on a visit >>>> to Washington, I went to the National Archives, where the archivists told >>>> me they'd never heard anything like it -- and in fact, doubted my story >>>> until I showed them the paperwork. The other route I'm going to try, at >>>> their suggestion, is the US State Dep't., but that could take years, ha. >>>> >>>> *Has anyone here had a similar circumstance, or have you heard of >>>> anything like this?* Or ideas of other ways to try to track it down? >>>> >>>> I am a complete novice at all this, so any and all >>>> tips/direction/advice are warmly welcomed! >>>> >>>> all the best, >>>> di >>>> Diane Rezendes >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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