Margaret, we all need a lesson from you! Cheri is right, Eugenia??? As I said it over and over, I finally got to where I could sort of hear the possibility.
Debbie On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:21 AM Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > Orsiana (sp?) is Eugenia? OK, I really don't understand Australian > accents. So was it something you had in your database? How did you figure > it out? Many on this list want to learn how to do it themselves. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:00 AM Margaret Vicente < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Rob, >> >> I have sent you some information privately and I can now confirm that I >> have your information and that Anthony Thomas is first cousins of Joao do >> Couto. Their mothers are sisters whose 2nd names is Eugenia. Maria >> Eugenia and Claudina Eugenia. >> >> Margaret Vicente >> >> >> >> *From: *Rob Whaite <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *January 3, 2020 1:28 PM >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese names. >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> I also discovered that the witness Elizabeth,(Ink is a bit blotchy) of >> the first marriage is the bride of the second. >> >> >> >> Bit hard to read but definitely the same signature. >> >> >> >> So,there is a definite relationship here, or very good friends,one or the >> other. >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 6:37 PM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Nancy I shall be in touch >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:43 AM Nancy Couto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Note that Marianno Borges was a witness for both weddings. That, along >> with the fact that Osiana (or Asiana) appears to be an uncommon name, >> suggests that the two grooms might be related. At any rate, it’s a good >> guess. >> >> >> >> I searched for information on the Osiana or Asiana surname and learned >> that the name is popular in the Philippines but is also known in Mexico and >> Uraguay and I’m sure other places as well. >> >> >> >> Rob, I’m a Couto and I have a very distant Ancestry DNA match with >> someone named Whaite—not you, though, and I think my match is from >> California. I’m interested in how your search plays out. Good luck! >> >> >> >> Nancy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Ascenção? Inacia/Ignacia? Luciana? (And they misunderstood the L?) Joana? >> Lauriana? Mariana? Sebastiana? Some of those aren't likely, but have an >> "ana" sound on the end. Maybe it will give someone an idea. >> >> >> >> I'm going to disagree with Debbie here. There's nothing in the document >> to indicate cousinship between the grooms. Maybe they are and maybe they >> aren't. To avoid tunnel vision, I'd treat them as 2 distinct, unrelated men. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:53 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> >> >> I see that the first two marriages on the page are what you are >> referring to. The dates are a day apart, so I suspect after marrying in >> the church, they went together to record the marriages officially. Yes, I >> believe the grooms were likely cousins. Both mothers are reported to use >> Osiana... their first names are Mary and Claudina. One spelling looked >> like Asiana. I also didn’t find a Portuguese surname that was similar. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have name ideas? I suspect the grooms are doing the best >> they can. Both used a mark to sign. >> >> >> >> If you know the place the came from... Azores? ...look for birth records. >> >> >> >> >> Debbie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Cheri >> >> >> >> I attach a couple of Australian marriage certificates. >> >> It is interesting that two of them are for Portuguese people in the State >> of Victoria in 1866 .Thomas(Tomasz) and De Quite(Do Couto) and in the same >> place(suspicious)? >> >> >> >> Both their mothers have the same maiden name Osiama or similar so maybe >> the two individuals getting married are cousins? >> >> >> >> In any case have you, or anybody else for that matter ever heard of this >> surname? >> >> >> >> Be very interested to know. >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b7bde4cb-4a96-479d-87f9-c649a8f47802%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b7bde4cb-4a96-479d-87f9-c649a8f47802%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vU%2B4Jc9ewov5e6TVqcxJpWut4Nof8QMsLYRt0oiOt5eA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vU%2B4Jc9ewov5e6TVqcxJpWut4Nof8QMsLYRt0oiOt5eA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GtfeDA8WOxv2HFNPs_JF5W1ErPjR1SDNX%2BMZq%2B11wFhQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GtfeDA8WOxv2HFNPs_JF5W1ErPjR1SDNX%2BMZq%2B11wFhQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/EFF5AC7C-BB99-40B8-8DAC-2E48358ADA0F%40gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/EFF5AC7C-BB99-40B8-8DAC-2E48358ADA0F%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAEGUQY_UgBO78o4ckYr3F2e3Ceo5V3C5f33n320%2BUC0rpn23cg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAEGUQY_UgBO78o4ckYr3F2e3Ceo5V3C5f33n320%2BUC0rpn23cg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5e0f8f51.1c69fb81.71ed4.1fce%40mx.google.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5e0f8f51.1c69fb81.71ed4.1fce%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G-RpN24_Ap_O%3D0Wp0Tb_-FZ%2BSDRT%3DZpcB6ai8ms%3DqVuA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G-RpN24_Ap_O%3D0Wp0Tb_-FZ%2BSDRT%3DZpcB6ai8ms%3DqVuA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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