You are welcome, Rob!
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 1:39 PM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you Margaret. I have had a lot of experience with genealogy but with > Portuguese Family History I am a complete amateur, > > Thank you so much. > > Rob Whaite > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 6:46 AM Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> It is written Osiana. How do I see Eugenia? How do you pronounce the word >> “ASIA” If you sound it off correctly it sounds like the letter “ J ” not the >> S sound. Now take this and pronounce Ojina, what do you get? >> >> Cheri, I didn’t do anything different than anyone else researching for >> information. And, no I didn’t have the couple in my database. I also knew >> it was like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. I suppose I was lucky >> to have found that needle. I should say Rob is the lucky one. I found the >> couple within a day or two of Rob’s first email but his estimated dates were >> not matching my findings, neither was his story, so I dismissed it and kept >> an eye out for other same name couples during my other research. I also >> continued work on this particular couple gathering as much info as I could >> about parents, grandparents, children etc. and saw that there were too many >> coincidences matching up to his story but the timing was still off. Now >> that Rob provided a solid piece of evidence plus another solidifying piece >> of his cousin’s marriage certificate, I knew the research paid off and that >> it could be passed on to Rob. >> >> Margaret V. >> >> PS: one important part of the research was the couples children’s godparents >> who led me to connecting the dots in between the two Australian marriages. >> >> >> >> From: Cheri Mello >> Sent: January 3, 2020 2:21 PM >> To: Azores Genealogy >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese names. >> >> >> >> Orsiana (sp?) is Eugenia? OK, I really don't understand Australian accents. >> So was it something you had in your database? How did you figure it out? >> Many on this list want to learn how to do it themselves. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:00 AM Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hello Rob, >> >> I have sent you some information privately and I can now confirm that I have >> your information and that Anthony Thomas is first cousins of Joao do Couto. >> Their mothers are sisters whose 2nd names is Eugenia. Maria Eugenia and >> Claudina Eugenia. >> >> Margaret Vicente >> >> >> >> From: Rob Whaite >> Sent: January 3, 2020 1:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese names. >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> I also discovered that the witness Elizabeth,(Ink is a bit blotchy) of the >> first marriage is the bride of the second. >> >> >> >> Bit hard to read but definitely the same signature. >> >> >> >> So,there is a definite relationship here, or very good friends,one or the >> other. >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 6:37 PM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Nancy I shall be in touch >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:43 AM Nancy Couto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Note that Marianno Borges was a witness for both weddings. That, along with >> the fact that Osiana (or Asiana) appears to be an uncommon name, suggests >> that the two grooms might be related. At any rate, it’s a good guess. >> >> >> >> I searched for information on the Osiana or Asiana surname and learned that >> the name is popular in the Philippines but is also known in Mexico and >> Uraguay and I’m sure other places as well. >> >> >> >> Rob, I’m a Couto and I have a very distant Ancestry DNA match with someone >> named Whaite—not you, though, and I think my match is from California. I’m >> interested in how your search plays out. Good luck! >> >> >> >> Nancy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Ascenção? Inacia/Ignacia? Luciana? (And they misunderstood the L?) Joana? >> Lauriana? Mariana? Sebastiana? Some of those aren't likely, but have an >> "ana" sound on the end. Maybe it will give someone an idea. >> >> >> >> I'm going to disagree with Debbie here. There's nothing in the document to >> indicate cousinship between the grooms. Maybe they are and maybe they >> aren't. To avoid tunnel vision, I'd treat them as 2 distinct, unrelated men. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:53 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> >> >> I see that the first two marriages on the page are what you are referring >> to. The dates are a day apart, so I suspect after marrying in the church, >> they went together to record the marriages officially. Yes, I believe the >> grooms were likely cousins. Both mothers are reported to use Osiana... >> their first names are Mary and Claudina. One spelling looked like Asiana. >> I also didn’t find a Portuguese surname that was similar. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have name ideas? I suspect the grooms are doing the best they >> can. Both used a mark to sign. >> >> >> >> If you know the place the came from... Azores? ...look for birth records. >> >> >> >> Debbie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Cheri >> >> >> >> I attach a couple of Australian marriage certificates. >> >> It is interesting that two of them are for Portuguese people in the State of >> Victoria in 1866 .Thomas(Tomasz) and De Quite(Do Couto) and in the same >> place(suspicious)? >> >> >> >> Both their mothers have the same maiden name Osiama or similar so maybe the >> two individuals getting married are cousins? >> >> >> >> In any case have you, or anybody else for that matter ever heard of this >> surname? >> >> >> >> Be very interested to know. >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b7bde4cb-4a96-479d-87f9-c649a8f47802%40googlegroups.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vU%2B4Jc9ewov5e6TVqcxJpWut4Nof8QMsLYRt0oiOt5eA%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GtfeDA8WOxv2HFNPs_JF5W1ErPjR1SDNX%2BMZq%2B11wFhQ%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/EFF5AC7C-BB99-40B8-8DAC-2E48358ADA0F%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAEGUQY_UgBO78o4ckYr3F2e3Ceo5V3C5f33n320%2BUC0rpn23cg%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5e0f8f51.1c69fb81.71ed4.1fce%40mx.google.com. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G-RpN24_Ap_O%3D0Wp0Tb_-FZ%2BSDRT%3DZpcB6ai8ms%3DqVuA%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5e10f2a6.1c69fb81.25e3e.98d9%40mx.google.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAEGUQY_hmWQzZcYUdvGYAqo0tDB8VMuFZaFjsoq%2BtFHcs-kf4A%40mail.gmail.com. -- Margaret M Vicente -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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