Hi I also discovered that the witness Elizabeth,(Ink is a bit blotchy) of the first marriage is the bride of the second.
Bit hard to read but definitely the same signature. So,there is a definite relationship here, or very good friends,one or the other. Rob On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 6:37 PM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Nancy I shall be in touch > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:43 AM Nancy Couto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Note that Marianno Borges was a witness for both weddings. That, along >> with the fact that Osiana (or Asiana) appears to be an uncommon name, >> suggests that the two grooms might be related. At any rate, it’s a good >> guess. >> >> I searched for information on the Osiana or Asiana surname and learned >> that the name is popular in the Philippines but is also known in Mexico and >> Uraguay and I’m sure other places as well. >> >> Rob, I’m a Couto and I have a very distant Ancestry DNA match with >> someone named Whaite—not you, though, and I think my match is from >> California. I’m interested in how your search plays out. Good luck! >> >> Nancy >> >> >> >> On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ascenção? Inacia/Ignacia? Luciana? (And they misunderstood the L?) Joana? >> Lauriana? Mariana? Sebastiana? Some of those aren't likely, but have an >> "ana" sound on the end. Maybe it will give someone an idea. >> >> I'm going to disagree with Debbie here. There's nothing in the document >> to indicate cousinship between the grooms. Maybe they are and maybe they >> aren't. To avoid tunnel vision, I'd treat them as 2 distinct, unrelated men. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:53 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> I see that the first two marriages on the page are what you are >>> referring to. The dates are a day apart, so I suspect after marrying in >>> the church, they went together to record the marriages officially. Yes, I >>> believe the grooms were likely cousins. Both mothers are reported to use >>> Osiana... their first names are Mary and Claudina. One spelling looked >>> like Asiana. I also didn’t find a Portuguese surname that was similar. >>> >>> Does anyone have name ideas? I suspect the grooms are doing the best >>> they can. Both used a mark to sign. >>> >>> If you know the place the came from... Azores? ...look for birth >>> records. >>> >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Rob Whaite <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Cheri >>>> >>>> I attach a couple of Australian marriage certificates. >>>> It is interesting that two of them are for Portuguese people in the >>>> State of Victoria in 1866 .Thomas(Tomasz) and De Quite(Do Couto) and in the >>>> same place(suspicious)? >>>> >>>> Both their mothers have the same maiden name Osiama or similar so maybe >>>> the two individuals getting married are cousins? >>>> >>>> In any case have you, or anybody else for that matter ever heard of >>>> this surname? >>>> >>>> Be very interested to know. >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b7bde4cb-4a96-479d-87f9-c649a8f47802%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b7bde4cb-4a96-479d-87f9-c649a8f47802%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vU%2B4Jc9ewov5e6TVqcxJpWut4Nof8QMsLYRt0oiOt5eA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vU%2B4Jc9ewov5e6TVqcxJpWut4Nof8QMsLYRt0oiOt5eA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GtfeDA8WOxv2HFNPs_JF5W1ErPjR1SDNX%2BMZq%2B11wFhQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GtfeDA8WOxv2HFNPs_JF5W1ErPjR1SDNX%2BMZq%2B11wFhQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/EFF5AC7C-BB99-40B8-8DAC-2E48358ADA0F%40gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/EFF5AC7C-BB99-40B8-8DAC-2E48358ADA0F%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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