Yes, javascript is required for the full, slick experience, obviously. All parts of the site are still usable when JS is off (that I can see), and seemingly entirely accessible via the keyboard.
With JS on, the keys work in most browsers, although some require you to have the map in focus. Of course Google Maps has a well documented API that could be used to create uber-accessible versions for different needs - http://www.google.com/apis/maps/ J -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' ????????????" Sent: 15 May 2007 21:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] Web 2.0 'neglecting good Accessible design' Jason & Stephen, when javascript is disabled in Opera or Camino the message is: Your web browser is not fully supported by Google Maps I wonder is the code IE7 specific? none of the keys work for me on os x unless I'm missing something this hardly qualifies as accessible... regards Jonathan Chetwynd On 15 May 2007, at 16:57, Jason Cartwright wrote: Disable javascript. Everything works fine. J -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' ????????????" Sent: 15 May 2007 16:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] Web 2.0 'neglecting good Accessible design' Richard, how does one use http://maps.google.com/ via the keyboard? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 15 May 2007, at 13:22, Richard Lockwood wrote: This particular rant seems to be about useability rather than accessibility (although I appreciate the two are often closely related). Much as I often loathe Nielsen's writing - Jason's right, it's often all about Nielsen more than it is about any actual problems - in this case he's got a point. "Web 2.0" sites are often completely unuseable - MySpace being a prime example, and Flickr (although it's been a while since I tried to use it to post a few pics and it may well have improved) another. Google Maps however, I'd hold up as a prime example of excellent intuitive design and useability. Just as the phrase "Web 2.0" means different things to all people (I avoid it if at all possible as I feel it just makes the user sound like a buzzword spouting bandwagon-jumper who hasn't a clue what he's actually saying ;-) ), you can't tar all "Web 2.0" sites with the same brush. Anyway, I've banged on far too long now, and this is what Nielsen wants - people to discuss HIM HIM HIM!!! Frankly, the less I hear of and from this tedious old bore, the happier I am. Cheers, Rich. On 5/15/07, "~:'' ありがとうございました。" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jason & Gordon > > any good Accessible Web 2.0 websites you'd care to plug? > or are you in a rush? > > cheers > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > > > On 15 May 2007, at 10:18, Jason Cartwright wrote: > > This is all my personal opinion, and I entirely disagree. > > Mr Nielsen has a history of spouting contrary opinions to court > controversy and gain publicity for himself and his company. > > "Web 2.0"[1] (for me at least) incorporates best practice > methodologies of developing to standards (and the consequences of > this, such as progressive enhancement etc) and "trusting users as co- > developers" [2]. > These core principals of "Web 2.0" encourage good design. > > As with any technology, "Web 2.0" will be misused - it's not the > technology's fault that this happens, it's the designer/developer that > fouled it up's problem. That doesn't look as good when you're goading > mainstream journos into writing about you though, does it? > > J > > [1] I've stuck all these in quotes, as I think "Web 2.0" means > different things to different people. > [2] Tim O'Reilly > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ‾:'' > ???????????? > Sent: 15 May 2007 08:48 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [backstage] Jakob Nielsen: Web 2.0 'neglecting good design' > > Jakob Nielsen: Web 2.0 'neglecting good design' > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6653119.stm > > seems to have copied my pitch for hackday ‾:" > > has he been invited? > > was I? > > did anyone else have ideas or requirements for an accessible SVG front > end? > > cheers > > Jonathan Chetwynd > Accessibility Consultant on Learning Disabilities and the Internet > > http://www.eas-i.co.uk > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. 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