yes, i agree that TV-Anytime supplies some of the requirement (indeed, perhaps everything brian was suggesting... brian?) but does TVA, despite the URN (the crid, i.e. crid://my.id.creator/xxxxxxxxxxx88r; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crid), supply the "on the Web" part? depending on one's philosophical bent, that's one of the potential problems with URNs & thus CRIDs: they can't (easily) be dereferenced, in the way that a "regular old" URL can be... URNs aren't "on the Web"... i guess what i'm saying is that the "regular old" URL for a programme Episode should be just as "permanent" as the TVA CRID -- and because it's permanent AND "on the Web", the "regular old" URL is even more useful than the CRID. the permanent URL works great for people AND machines (which can follow the link from the URL to the CRID and thus to the asset(s))... everybody wins? best-- --cs
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Burras Sent: 13 July 2007 08:37 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [backstage] Links to video/audio for specific shows Isn't that TV-Anytime ? Each programme has a unique URI identifier. Then a separate data source holds a mapping between the IDs and the locations it can be obtained from Cheers... ...Andy B. ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sizemore Sent: 12 July 2007 17:03 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [backstage] Links to video/audio for specific shows excellent, we're all on the same page, then! A Permanent URL for each Programme as well as its Episodes... (tho i still think that's what this URL is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/themakingofmusic/pip/aio4h/ a permanent representation of an Episode on the Web... linking to all available A/V for that Episode... ) best-- --cs ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 12 July 2007 16:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] Links to video/audio for specific shows On 12/07/07, Chris Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hee hee, i'm guessing Kim is crying at the suggestion that the URL would change when the programme "moves" between catchup, commercial, and archive... That's the opposite of what was proposed - that there should be a permanent URL for each show which has tracks/links/redirects to the content as it moves from one system to another, or for different territories. the URL should remain the constant & the same forever, surely? (though, agreed, "should be" & "will be" are very different beasts) --cs ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 12 July 2007 09:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] Links to video/audio for specific shows On 11/07/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: /me cries Please can you cry your suggestion please? On 11/07/07, Chris Jackson < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Ideally the BBC would maintain a set of permanent URLs for each > programme and episode, which in turn reference a range of URIs where > the audio and video can be found, now or in the future, whether via > DVB various or Internet. This would be particularly helpful if content > will change URL when it moves between the mooted BBC 'catch-up' > window, commercial and archive services. To me, it all sounds a bit > like the semantic web, although I'm no expert there. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk <http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/> discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv <http://www.ukfree.tv/> -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ********************************************************************** This email and its attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Cabot Communications Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and its attachments, you must take no action based upon them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone. Cabot Communications Limited Verona House, Filwood Road, Bristol BS16 3RY, UK +44 (0) 1179584232 Co. Registered in England number 02817269 Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________
