On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: >> One of the reason we dumped SLES on our production machines in favour of >> RHEL was that SUSE was consistently shipping with mismatching dynamic and >> static library versions - and would not fix it even when notified. >> >> SuSE may be great for home systems but having endured it (and SuSE's >> so-called "support desk") for 4 years, I do not believe it is suitable for >> enterprise or business production use. > > Well, with the exception of three things, I have found the installation and > stability 10x better than Fedora.
Fedora is by definition "bleeding edge" and we've frequently found that Fedora won't even install on new hardware while RHEL will. > RHEL stability is exceptional, so I cannot > comment, but the SuSE installer is far superior to the RHEL installer. > However, I cannot afford to be on RHEL, and at least for the moment, would > prefer not to be on one of the "clones". Centos is _very_ stable. RHEL can be licensed quite cheaply if you don't buy the support package (about US$10/machine) > The second problem is that they don't take enough care to make sure that > their updates have all dependencies resolved. Yes. This, plus their refusal to deal with people pointing it out even if they have paid for support, plus the refusal to even talk to Novell management when we escalated it) gives the impression of a bunch of surly teenagers operating out of bedrooms rather than a professional software company. > And finally, what is really disturbing me is this kernel oops. It > really killed me -- for two weeks I beat tried everything (lots of work) > thinking it was a Bacula bug. In the end, I had to "reluctantly" admit > it was either a compiler or a kernel bug -- I've now proved it to be a > kernel bug -- very frustrating. Your experiemce is not unique. >> Novell (SuSE's owners) management in the UK even tried to intervene on our >> behalf and were completely stonewalled by SuSE. If a company is this >> dysfunctional internally, then I don't hold out much hope for getting any >> problems fixed at all, let alone in a reasonable timeframe. > > I suspect that has changed and evolve even more in the future. This was current as of June 2006. > PS: I'm going to test it against their SuSE 10.2 kernel (to be released > in Dec if I remember right) and if it fails, I'll file a "blocker", > which will ensure that it is fixed. OpenSuse is similar to fedora - bleeding edge. SLES is supposedly a more "stable" animal - and at US$1500 per machine per year, I'd expect professional behaviour and responses, instead of refusal to respond when serious deficiencies are uncovered. AB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users