gilberto,

For me the Avicenna/Hatcher proof for the existence of God is much more
significant than the Cogito argument, since it's obvious to me that
something exists. The question is what is it?

i write: proof?
 last i heard a "proof" could not demand the thing to be proved as a given.
"causation."
 nope.
 hatcher does a wonderful, praiseworthy job of deconstructing any relationship 
between osme old Dude/Beard?Throne/yayydydaaaa and "Creator".
 may the One bless him for it.
   but his reasoning is on its face defective for "proving" anything except a 
story he is already telling himself.

 
 
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