a. This is not a pissing contest.  You're unhappy.
   This is not a valid reason for annoying other members
   on this list.

I posted a note about my dissatisfaction with the nag screen. People criticized me for it. I responded to that criticism. I didn't realize that in order to be a member in good standing of this list, I had to agree with everyone first. I didn't realize that e-mails devoid of warm and fuzzy praise for Bare Bones were considered annoying. Go through the e-mails. See who lodged personal attacks. It wasn't me...I still haven't done that.

All I did was criticize Bare Bones for what I believe is a short- sighted, counter-productive policy that penalizes legitimate users in order to stop OTHER PEOPLE who pirate. Maybe people didn't like my "tone"...I understand that, and I apologize for it. But please also understand that treating paying customers like petty criminals isn't exactly a way to elicit feel-good words from said customers.

b. Being a zealot about an issue is not conducive to
   finding a viable solution.

I'm not in a position to find a viable solution. I can only find work- arounds. By definition, this is something that can only be solved by Bare Bones. I can suggest solutions, and I have, as have others, but I have no way of knowing whether those proposals are under consideration by the powers that be within Bare Bones.

Some nice folks suggested work-arounds, but it still doesn't solve the underlying problem. As more and more people add computers to their home networks, I'm sure you will see this problem arise more frequently. And for every one person like me who speaks up, there are probably many more customers who simply keep quiet and decide against upgrading when the next version comes out.

c. If you were willing to take the time that you spend
   in bitching about the software to tell us what you
   exact needs are, someone on this list may be able
   to give you an alternative.

My exact needs are this: I would like to be able to run the software I paid for on as many machines as I like. As long as nobody else is using the software concurrently, what's the harm in having a BBEdit instance sitting idle on another machine? (I like the idling solution proposed by another listmember. It addresses Bare Bones's anti-piracy concerns without being overly punitive towards paying customers.)

I like keeping my apps open, with documents in them, so when I am at the machine, I don't have to start everything up again to get to my workspace. I like keeping log files in the window, so when I switch in to BBEdit, they get reloaded and I can keep a quick eye on them. I like my workspace to be there when I am ready for it. I like my systems to work the way I want them to, not the way software vendors want me to. That's why I bought a Mac in the first place.

Why should I have to go through the rigamarole of working around the anti-piracy measures which are obviously geared towards NON-PAYING users. I am a paying user, and I don't appreciate being treated like a crook.

Some people are playing linguistic tricks with the word "user", and others are defending the practice by saying that other companies are worse. Well, where I come from, a user is a person, and I am one person, therefore I am one user, and a single-user license should allow me to use it however I see fit. And other companies may have found worse solutions, which is precisely why I will never buy from them. Headaches like this are one of the reasons more people are being driven to open source solutions.

To reiterate previously proposed solutions, so that this conversation might become more productive:

1. GREAT SOLUTION - Use the same licensing rules as Yojimbo.

2. GOOD SOLUTION - Add the idle-checking to the nag boxes so that if people aren't using the instances on other machines (which is pretty hard to do physically anyway), people don't get pestered by the software. Nag the people who are breaking the rules, not those who aren't.

3. OK SOLUTION - Add the ability to save all & quit a remote instance from the nag box of another machine.

d. There's a solution that works in this situation, that
   worked with Adobe software 10+ years ago.  I'm not
   sure that I'm in the frame of mind that I want to tell
   you what that workaround is, though.

Well, if you should ever find yourself in that frame of mind, I would appreciate hearing it. (I'm assuming it requires shutting down the network or a portion thereof...not really an option for me since I have all sorts of automated cron-based syncing happening between machines for backups, etc.) But telling paying customers--yes, I am apparently the only chump who paid full price--that you have a solution but you aren't in the mood to give it to them is not exactly the best way to engender goodwill with an already-pissed-off customer.

   If you think
   about what the software is doing, I think it's rather
   obvious.

I'm guessing some UDP packet broadcasting. Unfortunately, Little Snitch doesn't seem to report the network activity BBEdit is initiating. Apparently, the network traffic isn't initiated by the BBEdit process itself. It looks like BBEdit is piggybacking on some OS-level service, like Bonjour, but I haven't yet been able to figure out how to get around it without shutting down ALL of Bonjour and knocking out all my other Bonjour services like iTunes sharing and AirPort Express's remote speaker capability.

Oh -- and I much prefer BBEdit's 'check on startup' to
MS Office's 'check all the time, and when I think there's
something else on the network, because Virtual PC is
flaking out, I'm going to dump you out of the app'.

BBEdit does NOT just check on startup. It checks all the time. How do I know? Because if I start a third instance on any machine, ALL the machines start putting up the nag boxes. And the nag boxes keep coming up until one instance is shut down. So, it IS checking all the time.

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