In that method, it uses the same SRP, so that makes sense. If you are using the 
2 SRP method, then you do not need to reactivate. If you do a cutover using the 
same SRP, you will.

I've called RIM Support 3 times and also have spoken with my RIM TAM. Everyone 
has assured me that the Two SRP, single DB upgrade from my 4.1.7 environment to 
5.0.2 does not require reactivation by users.

Maybe the two SRP, one Config Database is better for you, like I am using?
http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=KB12304


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Migration

Also, will i need to reactivate my 500 users because the document u sent says :
"
After you finish: After you complete the upgrade process, users must reactivate 
their BlackBerry devices. Instruct users to connect
their BlackBerry devices to the BlackBerry(r) Desktop Manager or BlackBerry(r) 
Web Desktop Manager to receive new SRP routing
and service name information.
"
Rgrds,

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Michael McDonald 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for the elaboration Ben. I will read the upgrade paper again.

Just a quick one, any comments on the SQL changes in that forum ?

Rgrds,




On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:43 PM, PIJOR, BEN 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Only the phase process link I provided does 4.1 to 5.0, but it still doesn't 
require the Transport Tool! You still have to use move user, but by using the 
BAS instead of the Transporter Tool.

The second article for knife-edge, you are correct.  It clearly states in Task 
6 to install the same version only. I missed that nugget.

Their upgrade guide does not provide any knife-edge cutover steps. I'm guessing 
because you can now use the Transporter Tool and 5.0 BAS to move users, which 
you couldn't in 4.x

http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/deliverables/16617/BlackBerry_Enterprise_Server_for_Microsoft_Exchange-Upgrade_Guide-T561574-1092971-0615125336-001-5.0.2-US.pdf

From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Michael McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:11 PM

To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Migration

Hi Ben,


Thank you for the valuable articles, however these kbs are for migration of  
BES 5 to BES 5 or BES 4.1 to 4.1.

Rgrds,
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, PIJOR, BEN 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Knife edge:
http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=KB10278

Phased move of users (no transport tool required):
http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=KB12304

We are doing the phased move over the next couple of months. The Transport Tool 
is only required when you move users between Configuration Databases and does 
not work on devices with 4.3 handheld code. We are doing the phased process to 
avoid updating the handheld code on those devices before moving them to the new 
BES.

After calling support, I received the PDF that I needed to send back within a 
few hours. This might be what you missed. After sending the PDF in for the new 
SRP, I got the new SRP in 3 days.

Ben

From: 
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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Michael McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Bes-admins] Migration

Hello,


I want to upgrade my  BES  4.1 on an old hardware to BES 5.0  ( on a new 
hardware) by using knife-edge cutover.

I want to make sure that the users will not require re-activation, and i dont 
want to use the bulk mode of the transporter tool.

Can you please guide me step by step to upgrade bes 4.1 to 5.0 with installing 
on a new server and upgrading the existing configuration database?

I have checked one of the forums about some SQL changes but i don't want to 
risk my environment , please have a look on these changes and tell me is it 
valid :

http://www.blackberryforums.com.au/forums/general-bes-discussion/5176-knife-edge-cutover-4-1-5-0-a.html

THX

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