Mike,

I want to confirm there are no files missing. Shader demo is in inside
qt demo. opengl 1.x demos were removed. The fact that samegame can run
shows your opengl 2.x driver worked OK.

Chris had tested on Windows 7, is your problem specific to windows 8
so that we cannot duplicate it?

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Mike Day <[email protected]> wrote:
> Was this relevant to me,   Bill?  I was reporting trouble with delay in
> loading jqt...
>
> Anyway,  assuming you did mean me,  and assuming you mean run/launch
> pad/qtdemo or ..../wddemo:
>
> opengl shader - I don't see an opengl demo of any sort, let alone shader,
> whether under qtdemo or under wddemo
>
>    (Package Manager shows that there are various graphics addons,
>    including gl2,  but not opengl.
>    Please note that I DO HAVE addons/graphics/gl1ut under J801, and
>    J801's wddemo does include opengl simple and opengl demo, though
>    opengl shader doesn't appear there)
>
>
> quickview2 - under qtdemo - a box appears with a single edit window,
> showing a file name, c:/d/j802/addons/ide/qt/demo/quick2.qml
>                        the source code starts:
>
>                "NB. quickview2   / NB. wrapping empty comments
>
>                NB. !!! this is experimental and *will* change...  / NB.
>
>                NB. cover for the QQuickView"
>
> samegame - under wddemo - seems to run ok,  though I don't know what it's
> supposed to do.   The window initially shows
>                      "GAME"  with  S pushing the G down, repeatedly,
> accompanied by unchanging text "1 Player / 2 Players / Zen Puzzle ";
>                        clicking somewhere in that display results in what is
> a game layout with a rectangle of circles filled in with various colours.
>                        Clicking a circle produces some tetra-like effect.
>
> Is that what you wanted?
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 26/05/2014 01:31, bill lam wrote:
>>
>> this version of jqt needs to load dll than previous version in order to
>> support QtQuick.
>>
>> Did it ran all demos ok, in particular, opengl shader, quickview2 and
>> samegame ?
>>
>> 26.05.2014, в 7:25, Mike Day<[email protected]>  написал(а):
>>
>>> With both profile. and profilex.ijs disabled: ~ 60sec
>>> similar with startup.ijs disabled in addition,
>>> about 120sec (ie worse) with startup.ijs only disabled,  profile. and
>>> profilex.ijs both enabled,
>>> but I suspect these are not significantly different from each other nor
>>> from those timings I reported earlier,   as I've got a scan and file-upload
>>> (neither directly related to J) running.
>>>
>>> As it happens,  that scan (AVG "Fix Performance") reported several
>>> registry errors;  it didn't explain them,  but a number of QT registry
>>> entries were mentioned as being in error.  Sorry I didn't write them down.
>>> It thinks it fixed them,  but with no improvement in loading time.
>>>
>>> FYI,
>>>    JVERSION
>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25
>>>
>>> Library: 8.02.06
>>>
>>> Qt IDE: 1.1.1/5.3.0
>>>
>>> Platform: Win 64
>>>
>>> Installer: J802 install
>>>
>>> InstallPath: c:/d/j802
>>>
>>>
>>> J801 continues to load fast;  its credentials:
>>> JVERSION
>>>
>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25
>>>
>>> Library: 8.01.028
>>>
>>> Qt IDE: 1.0.27/4.8.5
>>>
>>> Platform: Win 64
>>>
>>> Installer: j801 install
>>>
>>> InstallPath: c:/d/j801
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for any other ideas,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 25/05/2014 10:43, bill lam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And also the timing when removing ~bin/profile.ijs
>>>>
>>>> Вс, 25 май 2014, Chris Burke написал(а):
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the timing when you remove startup.ijs from the config?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Mike
>>>>> Day<[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't think so.  My first mention 3-4 minutes was pretty subjective.
>>>>>> I've now done a few comparative timings with my wristwatch,  but It's
>>>>>> Sunday morning and it takes too long for exhaustive tests
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, for what it's worth:
>>>>>> Windows Task Manager list of "Apps": Google Chrome/Task
>>>>>> Manager/Thunderbird/W Explorer/W Wordpad, generally consuming little
>>>>>> cpu
>>>>>> %age,  Thunderbird highest memory at 60~ MB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies if this doesn't display well.  I'm using a fixed width font
>>>>>> without tabs (I hope!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V Approx Time to load JQT  | Avast on/off? |  ZoneAlarm on/off |
>>>>>> setproc_affin_ 2?4 on/off
>>>>>>   90                        |      ON       |         ON |        ON
>>>>>> 105                        |      ON       | ON        |        ON
>>>>>> 110                        |      ON |         ON        |        ON
>>>>>> 100                        |      ON       | ON        |        ON
>>>>>> 100                        |      ON       |         OFF |        ON
>>>>>> 110                        |      OFF      |         OFF |        ON
>>>>>> 110                        |      ON       | ON        |        OFF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Avast on/off means with file-protection on/off
>>>>>> Z/A on/off means with firewall protection on/off
>>>>>> setproc_affin_ 2?4:    My newish laptop has a 4 core cpu - I've been
>>>>>> arbitrarily choosing 2 of them in startup.ijs and wondered whether
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> affects the jqt 802's load-time.  Apparently not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/05/2014 11:10, bill lam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disabling Avast already made it faster. I suspect this line of
>>>>>>> thought is
>>>>>>> correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 24.05.2014, в 17:31, Mike Day<[email protected]>
>>>>>>> написал(а):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Thanks for that thought,  Bill.  You obviously remember my
>>>>>>> occasional
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> problems with downloading j801.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just now booted JQT after disabling both my wifi and AVAST's
>>>>>>>> file-protection for 10 minutes;  JQT's window took about 2-3 minutes
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> appear.  Task Manager showed JQT as a background process (not an
>>>>>>>> "App" in
>>>>>>>> current terminology) using ~ 11% of CPU and about 17MB RAM until the
>>>>>>>> window
>>>>>>>> appeared.  Once it's shown as an "app", it's shown as using no CPU
>>>>>>>> and 15.8
>>>>>>>> MB,  that's while it's out of focus, just waiting for me to do
>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I doubt it's AVAST - I'd had no problem from that quarter with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> download or running the installation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It might be relevant that I still run Zonealarm as my firewall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/05/2014 16:12, bill lam wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Booting up time of 4-5 minutes is ridiculous. Your avast helped
>>>>>>>>> again?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Пт, 23 май 2014, Mike Day писал(а):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've just installed j802 including JQT under Windows 8.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JVERSION
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Library: 8.02.06
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.1.1/5.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Platform: Win 64
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Installer: J802 install
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/d/j802
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I continue to have user under j802,  ie c:/d/j802/user,   with
>>>>>>>>>> corresponding
>>>>>>>>>> modifications in jprofilex.ijs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This set-up has been working fine with j801,  but now there's
>>>>>>>>>> typically an
>>>>>>>>>> apparent 4-5 minute delay (after clicking on JQT's icon or
>>>>>>>>>> short-cut
>>>>>>>>>> file)
>>>>>>>>>> before the JQT term window appears.  Windows' Task Manager shows
>>>>>>>>>> JQT.exe as
>>>>>>>>>> running immediately after invocation, so I suspect the term window
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> suppressed in some way;  I expect it appears as a response to some
>>>>>>>>>> window-swapping action (eg alt-tab) on my part,  but so far,  I
>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>> spotted what that is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also have a little application that runs under J console,  and
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> fires immediately with j802 just as it did with j801, showing its
>>>>>>>>>> dos-type
>>>>>>>>>> window as soon as I click the shortcut.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I previously encountered no significant delay in loading JQT with
>>>>>>>>>> j801.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PS - It's not surprising that most replies/comments on the new
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>>> to Jprogramming rather than Jbeta - correspondents were replying
>>>>>>>>>> to its
>>>>>>>>>> announcement under the Jprogramming banner!
>>>>>>>>>>
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