Mike, I heard j802 jqt worked in win8 x64 inside vm without the slow loading. Perhaps you can try on another win8 or vm and compare the difference.
28.05.2014, в 2:47, Mike Day <[email protected]> написал(а): > Zdravstvuitye, Bill! > > But shader isn't of particular concern for me - I ran it since you asked, > but what I'm still principally interested in is the slow loading of JQT on my > machine. > > NB. I haven't snipped the rather long history below this! > > Thanks again for any help, > > Mike > > On 27/05/2014 16:32, bill lam wrote: >> Thanks Mike! I received other report that shader did not work >> for win8. For the time being, you may use the ANGLE version of >> Qt libraries if you want opengl. >> >> I have no idea why your win8 is so slow other than some >> background scan or disk read/write activity. FWIW the total size >> of windows 64-bit Qt 5.3 library is about 100MB. There will be a >> slim version. >> >> Вт, 27 май 2014, Mike Day написал(а): >>> Thanks - I tried what I think you meant: in >>> addons/ide/qt/demo/dshader.ijs >>> I replaced A with >>> >>> A=: 0 : 0 >>> pc a; >>> minwh 300 300;cc g opengl flush; >>> rem form end; >>> ) >>> >>> - with the same results, I'm afraid! The long handle-number is different, >>> but that's not surprising. >>> Mike >>> >>> On 27/05/2014 01:12, bill lam wrote: >>>> Try remove "version 2.0" in the cc opengl cmd. >>>> On May 26, 2014 8:48 PM, "Mike Day" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK - ya ponimaioo. >>>>> >>>>> Chris needs to know that I can only run Windows 8; I don't have Windows 7 >>>>> available right now. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry - you'd said "opengl shader" - I do have "shader" under qtdemo. >>>>> The first firing of shader produced a window entitled "a", with black >>>>> fill - it didn't appear to do anything if I clicked inside it. >>>>> Second and subsequent firings raise a wdhandler error box saying >>>>> error in: a_g_initialize >>>>> domain error: glGetString >>>>> p =. glGetString GL_VERSION >>>>> >>>>> A window entitled "a" does eventually appear after several presses of the >>>>> wdhandler ok button. >>>>> This time it's mostly white but with a black rectangle on the right. >>>>> On the second firing only (I think) the terminal window showed: >>>>> GL_VERSION: 4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.3304 >>>>> >>>>> GL_VENDOR: Intel >>>>> GL_RENDERER: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 >>>>> GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.00 - Build 10.18.10.3304 >>>>> glCreateProgram error >>>>> '0 809397436608 > i'&(15!:0) >>>>> cder : 2 0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Judging from the source code, these lines might give you some useful >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> On 26/05/2014 10:26, bill lam wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to confirm there are no files missing. Shader demo is in inside >>>>>> qt demo. opengl 1.x demos were removed. The fact that samegame can run >>>>>> shows your opengl 2.x driver worked OK. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris had tested on Windows 7, is your problem specific to windows 8 >>>>>> so that we cannot duplicate it? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Mike Day <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Was this relevant to me, Bill? I was reporting trouble with delay in >>>>>>> loading jqt... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, assuming you did mean me, and assuming you mean run/launch >>>>>>> pad/qtdemo or ..../wddemo: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> opengl shader - I don't see an opengl demo of any sort, let alone >>>>>>> shader, >>>>>>> whether under qtdemo or under wddemo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Package Manager shows that there are various graphics addons, >>>>>>> including gl2, but not opengl. >>>>>>> Please note that I DO HAVE addons/graphics/gl1ut under J801, and >>>>>>> J801's wddemo does include opengl simple and opengl demo, though >>>>>>> opengl shader doesn't appear there) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> quickview2 - under qtdemo - a box appears with a single edit window, >>>>>>> showing a file name, c:/d/j802/addons/ide/qt/demo/quick2.qml >>>>>>> the source code starts: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "NB. quickview2 / NB. wrapping empty comments >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NB. !!! this is experimental and *will* change... / NB. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NB. cover for the QQuickView" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> samegame - under wddemo - seems to run ok, though I don't know what >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> supposed to do. The window initially shows >>>>>>> "GAME" with S pushing the G down, repeatedly, >>>>>>> accompanied by unchanging text "1 Player / 2 Players / Zen Puzzle "; >>>>>>> clicking somewhere in that display results in >>>>>>> what is >>>>>>> a game layout with a rectangle of circles filled in with various >>>>>>> colours. >>>>>>> Clicking a circle produces some tetra-like >>>>>>> effect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is that what you wanted? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26/05/2014 01:31, bill lam wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this version of jqt needs to load dll than previous version in order to >>>>>>>> support QtQuick. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did it ran all demos ok, in particular, opengl shader, quickview2 and >>>>>>>> samegame ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 26.05.2014, в 7:25, Mike Day<[email protected]> написал(а): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With both profile. and profilex.ijs disabled: ~ 60sec >>>>>>>>> similar with startup.ijs disabled in addition, >>>>>>>>> about 120sec (ie worse) with startup.ijs only disabled, profile. and >>>>>>>>> profilex.ijs both enabled, >>>>>>>>> but I suspect these are not significantly different from each other >>>>>>>>> nor >>>>>>>> >from those timings I reported earlier, as I've got a scan and >>>>>>>>> file-upload >>>>>>>>> (neither directly related to J) running. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As it happens, that scan (AVG "Fix Performance") reported several >>>>>>>>> registry errors; it didn't explain them, but a number of QT registry >>>>>>>>> entries were mentioned as being in error. Sorry I didn't write them >>>>>>>>> down. >>>>>>>>> It thinks it fixed them, but with no improvement in loading time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FYI, >>>>>>>>> JVERSION >>>>>>>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Library: 8.02.06 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.1.1/5.3.0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Platform: Win 64 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Installer: J802 install >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/d/j802 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J801 continues to load fast; its credentials: >>>>>>>>> JVERSION >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Library: 8.01.028 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.0.27/4.8.5 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Platform: Win 64 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Installer: j801 install >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/d/j801 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for any other ideas, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 25/05/2014 10:43, bill lam wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And also the timing when removing ~bin/profile.ijs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Вс, 25 май 2014, Chris Burke написал(а): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What is the timing when you remove startup.ijs from the config? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Mike >>>>>>>>>>> Day<[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't think so. My first mention 3-4 minutes was pretty >>>>>>>>>>> subjective. >>>>>>>>>>>> I've now done a few comparative timings with my wristwatch, but >>>>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday morning and it takes too long for exhaustive tests >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, for what it's worth: >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows Task Manager list of "Apps": Google Chrome/Task >>>>>>>>>>>> Manager/Thunderbird/W Explorer/W Wordpad, generally consuming >>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>> cpu >>>>>>>>>>>> %age, Thunderbird highest memory at 60~ MB. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies if this doesn't display well. I'm using a fixed width >>>>>>>>>>>> font >>>>>>>>>>>> without tabs (I hope!) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> V Approx Time to load JQT | Avast on/off? | ZoneAlarm on/off | >>>>>>>>>>>> setproc_affin_ 2?4 on/off >>>>>>>>>>>> 90 | ON | ON | >>>>>>>>>>>> ON >>>>>>>>>>>> 105 | ON | ON | ON >>>>>>>>>>>> 110 | ON | ON | >>>>>>>>>>>> ON >>>>>>>>>>>> 100 | ON | ON | ON >>>>>>>>>>>> 100 | ON | OFF | >>>>>>>>>>>> ON >>>>>>>>>>>> 110 | OFF | OFF | >>>>>>>>>>>> ON >>>>>>>>>>>> 110 | ON | ON | OFF >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Avast on/off means with file-protection on/off >>>>>>>>>>>> Z/A on/off means with firewall protection on/off >>>>>>>>>>>> setproc_affin_ 2?4: My newish laptop has a 4 core cpu - I've >>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrarily choosing 2 of them in startup.ijs and wondered whether >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> affects the jqt 802's load-time. Apparently not. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2014 11:10, bill lam wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Disabling Avast already made it faster. I suspect this line of >>>>>>>>>>>>> thought is >>>>>>>>>>>>> correct. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24.05.2014, в 17:31, Mike Day<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> написал(а): >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that thought, Bill. You obviously remember my >>>>>>>>>>>>> occasional >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems with downloading j801. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just now booted JQT after disabling both my wifi and AVAST's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file-protection for 10 minutes; JQT's window took about 2-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear. Task Manager showed JQT as a background process (not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "App" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> current terminology) using ~ 11% of CPU and about 17MB RAM until >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> window >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared. Once it's shown as an "app", it's shown as using no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 15.8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MB, that's while it's out of focus, just waiting for me to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> something. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I doubt it's AVAST - I'd had no problem from that quarter with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download or running the installation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It might be relevant that I still run Zonealarm as my firewall. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23/05/2014 16:12, bill lam wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Booting up time of 4-5 minutes is ridiculous. Your avast helped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Пт, 23 май 2014, Mike Day писал(а): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just installed j802 including JQT under Windows 8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JVERSION >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Library: 8.02.06 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.1.1/5.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform: Win 64 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer: J802 install >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/d/j802 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I continue to have user under j802, ie c:/d/j802/user, with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications in jprofilex.ijs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This set-up has been working fine with j801, but now there's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparent 4-5 minute delay (after clicking on JQT's icon or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short-cut >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the JQT term window appears. Windows' Task Manager >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQT.exe as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running immediately after invocation, so I suspect the term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppressed in some way; I expect it appears as a response to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window-swapping action (eg alt-tab) on my part, but so far, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spotted what that is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also have a little application that runs under J console, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires immediately with j802 just as it did with j801, showing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dos-type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window as soon as I click the shortcut. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I previously encountered no significant delay in loading JQT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j801. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS - It's not surprising that most replies/comments on the new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Jprogramming rather than Jbeta - correspondents were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement under the Jprogramming banner! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antivirus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection is active. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avast.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For information about J forums >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antivirus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection is active. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avast.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For information about J forums >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> For information about J forums seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! >>>>>>>>>>>> Antivirus >>>>>>>>>>>> protection is active. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avast.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>> For information about J forums seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>>> For information about J forums seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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