Thanks - I tried what I think you meant: in
addons/ide/qt/demo/dshader.ijs
I replaced A with

A=: 0 : 0
pc a;
minwh 300 300;cc g opengl flush;
rem form end;
)

- with the same results, I'm afraid! The long handle-number is different, but that's not surprising.
Mike

On 27/05/2014 01:12, bill lam wrote:
Try remove "version 2.0" in the cc opengl cmd.
On May 26, 2014 8:48 PM, "Mike Day" <[email protected]> wrote:

OK - ya ponimaioo.

Chris needs to know that I can only run Windows 8;  I don't have Windows 7
available right now.

Sorry - you'd said "opengl shader" - I do have "shader" under qtdemo.
The first firing of shader produced a window entitled "a",  with black
fill - it didn't appear to do anything if I clicked inside it.
Second and subsequent firings raise a wdhandler error box saying
error in: a_g_initialize
domain error: glGetString
p =. glGetString GL_VERSION

A window entitled "a" does eventually appear after several presses of the
wdhandler ok button.
This time it's mostly white but with a black rectangle on the right.
On the second firing only (I think) the terminal window showed:
GL_VERSION: 4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.3304

GL_VENDOR: Intel
GL_RENDERER: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.00 - Build 10.18.10.3304
glCreateProgram error
'0 809397436608 > i'&(15!:0)
cder : 2 0


Judging from the source code,  these lines might give you some useful
information.

Thanks,

Mike

On 26/05/2014 10:26, bill lam wrote:

Mike,

I want to confirm there are no files missing. Shader demo is in inside
qt demo. opengl 1.x demos were removed. The fact that samegame can run
shows your opengl 2.x driver worked OK.

Chris had tested on Windows 7, is your problem specific to windows 8
so that we cannot duplicate it?

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Mike Day <[email protected]>
wrote:

Was this relevant to me,   Bill?  I was reporting trouble with delay in
loading jqt...

Anyway,  assuming you did mean me,  and assuming you mean run/launch
pad/qtdemo or ..../wddemo:

opengl shader - I don't see an opengl demo of any sort, let alone shader,
whether under qtdemo or under wddemo

     (Package Manager shows that there are various graphics addons,
     including gl2,  but not opengl.
     Please note that I DO HAVE addons/graphics/gl1ut under J801, and
     J801's wddemo does include opengl simple and opengl demo, though
     opengl shader doesn't appear there)


quickview2 - under qtdemo - a box appears with a single edit window,
showing a file name, c:/d/j802/addons/ide/qt/demo/quick2.qml
                         the source code starts:

                 "NB. quickview2   / NB. wrapping empty comments

                 NB. !!! this is experimental and *will* change...  / NB.

                 NB. cover for the QQuickView"

samegame - under wddemo - seems to run ok,  though I don't know what it's
supposed to do.   The window initially shows
                       "GAME"  with  S pushing the G down, repeatedly,
accompanied by unchanging text "1 Player / 2 Players / Zen Puzzle ";
                         clicking somewhere in that display results in
what is
a game layout with a rectangle of circles filled in with various colours.
                         Clicking a circle produces some tetra-like
effect.

Is that what you wanted?

All the best,

Mike


On 26/05/2014 01:31, bill lam wrote:

this version of jqt needs to load dll than previous version in order to
support QtQuick.

Did it ran all demos ok, in particular, opengl shader, quickview2 and
samegame ?

26.05.2014, в 7:25, Mike Day<[email protected]>  написал(а):

  With both profile. and profilex.ijs disabled: ~ 60sec
similar with startup.ijs disabled in addition,
about 120sec (ie worse) with startup.ijs only disabled,  profile. and
profilex.ijs both enabled,
but I suspect these are not significantly different from each other nor
from those timings I reported earlier,   as I've got a scan and
file-upload
(neither directly related to J) running.

As it happens,  that scan (AVG "Fix Performance") reported several
registry errors;  it didn't explain them,  but a number of QT registry
entries were mentioned as being in error.  Sorry I didn't write them
down.
It thinks it fixed them,  but with no improvement in loading time.

FYI,
     JVERSION
Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25

Library: 8.02.06

Qt IDE: 1.1.1/5.3.0

Platform: Win 64

Installer: J802 install

InstallPath: c:/d/j802


J801 continues to load fast;  its credentials:
JVERSION

Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25

Library: 8.01.028

Qt IDE: 1.0.27/4.8.5

Platform: Win 64

Installer: j801 install

InstallPath: c:/d/j801


Thanks for any other ideas,

Mike

On 25/05/2014 10:43, bill lam wrote:

And also the timing when removing ~bin/profile.ijs

Вс, 25 май 2014, Chris Burke написал(а):

What is the timing when you remove startup.ijs from the config?


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Mike
Day<[email protected]>wrote:

  Don't think so.  My first mention 3-4 minutes was pretty subjective.
I've now done a few comparative timings with my wristwatch,  but
It's
Sunday morning and it takes too long for exhaustive tests

Anyway, for what it's worth:
Windows Task Manager list of "Apps": Google Chrome/Task
Manager/Thunderbird/W Explorer/W Wordpad, generally consuming little
cpu
%age,  Thunderbird highest memory at 60~ MB.

Apologies if this doesn't display well.  I'm using a fixed width
font
without tabs (I hope!)

V Approx Time to load JQT  | Avast on/off? |  ZoneAlarm on/off |
setproc_affin_ 2?4 on/off
    90                        |      ON       |         ON |
  ON
105                        |      ON       | ON        |        ON
110                        |      ON |         ON        |        ON
100                        |      ON       | ON        |        ON
100                        |      ON       |         OFF |        ON
110                        |      OFF      |         OFF |        ON
110                        |      ON       | ON        |        OFF

Avast on/off means with file-protection on/off
Z/A on/off means with firewall protection on/off
setproc_affin_ 2?4:    My newish laptop has a 4 core cpu - I've been
arbitrarily choosing 2 of them in startup.ijs and wondered whether
this
affects the jqt 802's load-time.  Apparently not.

Mike


On 24/05/2014 11:10, bill lam wrote:

  Disabling Avast already made it faster. I suspect this line of
thought is
correct.

24.05.2014, в 17:31, Mike Day<[email protected]>
написал(а):

    Thanks for that thought,  Bill.  You obviously remember my
occasional

problems with downloading j801.

I've just now booted JQT after disabling both my wifi and AVAST's
file-protection for 10 minutes;  JQT's window took about 2-3
minutes
to
appear.  Task Manager showed JQT as a background process (not an
"App" in
current terminology) using ~ 11% of CPU and about 17MB RAM until
the
window
appeared.  Once it's shown as an "app", it's shown as using no CPU
and 15.8
MB,  that's while it's out of focus, just waiting for me to do
something.

So I doubt it's AVAST - I'd had no problem from that quarter with
the
download or running the installation.

It might be relevant that I still run Zonealarm as my firewall.

?!

Mike

On 23/05/2014 16:12, bill lam wrote:

  Booting up time of 4-5 minutes is ridiculous. Your avast helped
again?

Пт, 23 май 2014, Mike Day писал(а):

  I've just installed j802 including JQT under Windows 8.
JVERSION

Engine: j701/2011-01-10/11:25

Library: 8.02.06

Qt IDE: 1.1.1/5.3.0

Platform: Win 64

Installer: J802 install

InstallPath: c:/d/j802


I continue to have user under j802,  ie c:/d/j802/user,   with
corresponding
modifications in jprofilex.ijs.

This set-up has been working fine with j801,  but now there's
typically an
apparent 4-5 minute delay (after clicking on JQT's icon or
short-cut
file)
before the JQT term window appears.  Windows' Task Manager shows
JQT.exe as
running immediately after invocation, so I suspect the term
window
is
suppressed in some way;  I expect it appears as a response to
some
window-swapping action (eg alt-tab) on my part,  but so far,  I
haven't
spotted what that is.

I also have a little application that runs under J console,  and
that
still
fires immediately with j802 just as it did with j801, showing
its
dos-type
window as soon as I click the shortcut.

I previously encountered no significant delay in loading JQT
with
j801.

Any ideas?

Mike

PS - It's not surprising that most replies/comments on the new
release
went
to Jprogramming rather than Jbeta - correspondents were replying
to its
announcement under the Jprogramming banner!


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