Yep, that crashed it once I turned debug on. So it does not seem to be platform 
dependent.

Cheers, bob

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You need to turn debug on before entering the last line.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM, robert therriault <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> I just get repeated error messages after re-entering the last line, as
>> expected.
>> 
>>    wd 'mb infox Test'
>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> : wd
>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>>   wd 'mb infox Test'
>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> : wd
>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>>   wd 'mb infox Test'
>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> : wd
>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> 
>>    JVERSION
>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
>> Library: 8.05.07
>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
>> Platform: Darwin 64
>> Installer: J805 install
>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>> 
>> Cheers, bob
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In looking into why "Video Introduction to Labs" lab fails, tried other
>> Qt
>>> web demos and they failed as well with the same message.
>>> 
>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
>>> 
>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
>>> 
>>> Also, looking at the J crash - I tried a simple test for wd.
>>> 
>>>  wd 'mb info 'Test'
>>> |                    ^
>>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
>>> 
>>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
>>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>>> : wd
>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>>>  13!:0]1
>>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
>>> 
>>> Pressing enter after the last line crashes J.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Got the same thing after rebooting. Tried webview, webd3 and webgl. All
>>>> got the same error message. Looks like my Qt is messed up. Will put this
>>>> back into beta. But first, I want to look into the crash of J when
>> trying
>>>> to use debug on this. Just a few quick tests to see if I can recreate
>> it on
>>>> something small.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The window that is open is the ijx window as that was where I ran the
>>>>> statements. Also, when running a lab the lab selection window is open.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Going to reboot to see if it goes away before I try anything else.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM, robert therriault <
>> [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> No problem with emailing directly at all Don, although you do limit
>> the
>>>>>> expertise available to solve the problem ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The original error message that you saw was
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
>>>>>>>> : wd
>>>>>>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and that usually indicates that a different window is open and getting
>>>>>> in the way of messages being received by the mm child. At least that
>> is
>>>>>> where I have seen it. Nothing that I see in MULTIMEDIA looks out of
>> place,
>>>>>> but you are correct that it is a big form. Next steps to me would be:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you get a chance to run wdforms '' to see if anything was open?
>>>>>> Labselect window was occasionally the culprit when I was developing,
>> but it
>>>>>> is possible there is another window floating around that is getting
>> in the
>>>>>> way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a final check, is the multimedia lab working in Help>Studio>Qt
>>>>>> Demos>multimedia
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once you see the window you need to click on the open url button to
>> see
>>>>>> the video in the window.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for your work on this Don. Let me know about the status of
>> the
>>>>>> forms and if the video in the demo runs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers, bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me replying to you privately. Here is where I
>>>>>> got so far:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wd is crashing on the form MULTIMEDIA. I manually stepped through the
>>>>>> script and got down to this. If you need the info as to the steps I
>> can
>>>>>> send it. I see where mm is a multimedia video, but I haven't played
>> with it
>>>>>> before. I know MULTIMEDIA is pretty big and spotting something in it
>>>>>> changed is difficult, but if you could tell me what I should do nest I
>>>>>> would appreciate it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and below is the contents of MULTEMEDIA. Sorry about the line wrap.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  MULTIMEDIA
>>>>>>> pc multimedia ptop;pmove 0 0 _1 _1;
>>>>>>> bin vhv;
>>>>>>> cc hide button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarminbutton;set _
>>>>>> tooltip "Minimize and pause video";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> cc show button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarmaxbutton;set _
>>>>>> tooltip "Restore video";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> bin vh;
>>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc C static;cn "Chapters";set C tooltip "Chapters of this
>>>>>> lab";
>>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc chapter combolist;set _ tooltip "Chapters of this
>>>>>> lab";
>>>>>>> bin zh;
>>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc S static;cn "Sections";set S tooltip "Sections
>>>>>> available for view";
>>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc section combolist;set _ tooltip "Sections available
>>>>>> for view";
>>>>>>> bin zzhvs;
>>>>>>> cc SI static;cn "Size";set _ tooltip "Available Display Sizes";
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xs radiobutton;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra small screen
>>>>>> size - 320 X 240";
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc s radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Small screen
>>>>>> size - 415 X 277";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc sm radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Small-medium
>>>>>> screen size - 575 X 383";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc m radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Medium screen
>>>>>> size - 799 X 533";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc ml radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Medium-large
>>>>>> small screen size - 1141 X 761";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc l radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Large screen
>>>>>> size - 1695 X 1130";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xl radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra large
>>>>>> screen size - 3615 X 2410";set _ wh 20 20;bin s;
>>>>>>> bin z;
>>>>>>> cc mm multimedia video;set mm sizepolicy expanding;set mm aspectratio
>>>>>> keep;
>>>>>>> bin zh;
>>>>>>> cc mute static;cn "Vol.";set _ tooltip "Volume slider";
>>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc vol slider 0 0 1 2 5 3; set _ tooltip "Slide to adjust
>>>>>> level of audio";
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc play button;cn "";set play icon
>>>>>> qstyle::sp_mediapause;set _ tooltip "Pause video";set mm play;
>>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc pos slider;set _ tooltip "Slide to scrub through
>> video";
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc replay button;cn "";set _ icon
>>>>>> qstyle::sp_browserreload;set _ tooltip "Replay video from start";
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc labtext button;cn "";set _ icon
>>>>>> qstyle::sp_arrowdown;set _ tooltip "Show text";
>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc note button;cn "";set _ icon
>>>>>> qstyle::sp_filedialogdetailedview;set _ tooltip "Make notes on this
>>>>>> lesson";set _ wh 30 20;
>>>>>>> bin zzv;
>>>>>>> cc notes editm;set _ wh 200 480; set _ tooltip "Notes are stored in
>>>>>> your J user folder";
>>>>>>> cc sve button;cn "Save";set _ tooltip "Click Save to update your
>>>>>> current notes";
>>>>>>> bin zzvh;
>>>>>>> cc hlp button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_filedialogcontentsview;set
>>>>>> _ tooltip "Find out  more about selected text.";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc tex editm;set _ wh 640 100;set _ tooltip "Text
>>>>>> version of the video script";
>>>>>>> bin sz;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> You need to exclude the lab by putting it's filename into
>>>>>> '~addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt' .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tried your lab in a clean JQt session and got the same result.
>> Well,
>>>>>> I do some initialization before J is ready. But it shouldn't be a
>> problem
>>>>>> (I hope).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/windows
>>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T10:54:53
>>>>>>> Library: 8.05.08
>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2s/5.6.2
>>>>>>> Platform: Win 64
>>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/program files/j64-805
>>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It crashes in runview. I turned on debug, first with ctrl-k then with
>>>>>> 13!:0]1 to get closer to the failure but J crashes. Will play with it
>> some
>>>>>> more to see if I can track it down.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM, robert therriault <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You are right about "Introduction to Video Labs" not running in JHS,
>>>>>> in fact I had thought that I had it set up so that it would only be
>> shown
>>>>>> in the jqt labs and would not be visible in the JHS labs, but maybe
>> Chris
>>>>>> or Bill can bring me up to speed on how I specify that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In jqt "Introduction to Video Labs" runs fine for me. You might take
>> a
>>>>>> look to see if there are any orphan windows that think that they have
>>>>>> control. You can find the windows that are open using the following
>>>>>> technique.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   JVERSION
>>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
>>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
>>>>>>> Library: 8.05.07
>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
>>>>>>> Platform: Darwin 64
>>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>>>>>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
>>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   wdforms '' NB. should give you a list of current windows
>>>>>>> ┌──────────┬───────────────┬───────┬┬───┐
>>>>>>> │multimedia│140198256240224│qtvideo││631│
>>>>>>> └──────────┴───────────────┴───────┴┴───┘
>>>>>>>   wd 'psel multimedia;pclose' NB. Let's you close windows that are
>>>>>> not needed
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers, bob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was a little premature in sending that e-mail. Since then I have
>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>> several other labs that don't work under jhs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dissect I
>>>>>>>> Dissect II
>>>>>>>> J by Point & Click I
>>>>>>>> Debug
>>>>>>>> All FVJ4 labs
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Video Introduction to Labs" fails in both jhs and JQt. In JQt the
>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
>>>>>>>> : wd
>>>>>>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It also uses "wd" so it won't work in jhs even if that is fixed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:45 AM, chris burke <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Will do, thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 14 November 2016 at 06:46, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Need to add "labs/labs/core/jclickbeginners.ijt" to EXJHS in
>>>>>>>>>> "addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt" as it assumes that it is running
>>>>>> under JQt.
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