JVERSION
Engine: j805/j64/darwin
Beta-11: commercial/2016-08-23T13:05:27 NB. CRASHES
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wd 'mb infox Test'
|mb : invalid mb type: infox
: wd
| (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
NB. turn debug on and then run again to crash
wd 'mb infox Test'
JVERSION
Engine: j805/j64/darwin
Beta-9: commercial/2016-07-05T17:11:06 NB. WORKS
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wd 'mb infox Test'
|mb : invalid mb type: infox
: wd
| (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
NB. turn debug on and run again and it turns debug on and works
wd 'mb infox Test'
Cheers, bob
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> OK in J804 and J didn't crash. Also, your video introduction worked there,
> so as least Windows is not the culprit. Went back to
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> and it still failed. That's as far back as I have.
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't know what to think of the other error message. Will try an older
>> version of J to see if it is new. And it could be something wrong with my
>> computer. So many pieces to deal with where things can go wrong.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:17 PM, robert therriault <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, that crashed it once I turned debug on. So it does not seem to be
>>> platform dependent.
>>>
>>> Cheers, bob
>>>
>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You need to turn debug on before entering the last line.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM, robert therriault <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just get repeated error messages after re-entering the last line, as
>>>>> expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> wd 'mb infox Test'
>>>>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>>>>> : wd
>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
>>>>> wd 'mb infox Test'
>>>>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>>>>> : wd
>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
>>>>> wd 'mb infox Test'
>>>>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>>>>> : wd
>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
>>>>>
>>>>> JVERSION
>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
>>>>> Library: 8.05.07
>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
>>>>> Platform: Darwin 64
>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>>>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, bob
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In looking into why "Video Introduction to Labs" lab fails, tried
>>> other
>>>>> Qt
>>>>>> web demos and they failed as well with the same message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, looking at the J crash - I tried a simple test for wd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wd 'mb info 'Test'
>>>>>> | ^
>>>>>> wd 'mb infox Test'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wd 'mb infox Test'
>>>>>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>>>>>> : wd
>>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
>>>>>> 13!:0]1
>>>>>> wd 'mb infox Test'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pressing enter after the last line crashes J.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got the same thing after rebooting. Tried webview, webd3 and webgl.
>>> All
>>>>>>> got the same error message. Looks like my Qt is messed up. Will put
>>> this
>>>>>>> back into beta. But first, I want to look into the crash of J when
>>>>> trying
>>>>>>> to use debug on this. Just a few quick tests to see if I can recreate
>>>>> it on
>>>>>>> something small.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The window that is open is the ijx window as that was where I ran
>>> the
>>>>>>>> statements. Also, when running a lab the lab selection window is
>>> open.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Going to reboot to see if it goes away before I try anything else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM, robert therriault <
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No problem with emailing directly at all Don, although you do limit
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> expertise available to solve the problem ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The original error message that you saw was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
>>>>>>>>>>> : wd
>>>>>>>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and that usually indicates that a different window is open and
>>> getting
>>>>>>>>> in the way of messages being received by the mm child. At least
>>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> where I have seen it. Nothing that I see in MULTIMEDIA looks out of
>>>>> place,
>>>>>>>>> but you are correct that it is a big form. Next steps to me would
>>> be:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you get a chance to run wdforms '' to see if anything was open?
>>>>>>>>> Labselect window was occasionally the culprit when I was
>>> developing,
>>>>> but it
>>>>>>>>> is possible there is another window floating around that is getting
>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As a final check, is the multimedia lab working in Help>Studio>Qt
>>>>>>>>> Demos>multimedia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once you see the window you need to click on the open url button to
>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> the video in the window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your work on this Don. Let me know about the status
>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> forms and if the video in the demo runs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers, bob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me replying to you privately. Here is where
>>> I
>>>>>>>>> got so far:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wd is crashing on the form MULTIMEDIA. I manually stepped through
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> script and got down to this. If you need the info as to the steps I
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> send it. I see where mm is a multimedia video, but I haven't played
>>>>> with it
>>>>>>>>> before. I know MULTIMEDIA is pretty big and spotting something in
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> changed is difficult, but if you could tell me what I should do
>>> nest I
>>>>>>>>> would appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and below is the contents of MULTEMEDIA. Sorry about the line
>>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> MULTIMEDIA
>>>>>>>>>> pc multimedia ptop;pmove 0 0 _1 _1;
>>>>>>>>>> bin vhv;
>>>>>>>>>> cc hide button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarminbutton;set
>>> _
>>>>>>>>> tooltip "Minimize and pause video";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> cc show button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarmaxbutton;set
>>> _
>>>>>>>>> tooltip "Restore video";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> bin vh;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc C static;cn "Chapters";set C tooltip "Chapters of
>>> this
>>>>>>>>> lab";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc chapter combolist;set _ tooltip "Chapters of this
>>>>>>>>> lab";
>>>>>>>>>> bin zh;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc S static;cn "Sections";set S tooltip "Sections
>>>>>>>>> available for view";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc section combolist;set _ tooltip "Sections
>>> available
>>>>>>>>> for view";
>>>>>>>>>> bin zzhvs;
>>>>>>>>>> cc SI static;cn "Size";set _ tooltip "Available Display Sizes";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xs radiobutton;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra small
>>> screen
>>>>>>>>> size - 320 X 240";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc s radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Small
>>> screen
>>>>>>>>> size - 415 X 277";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc sm radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip
>>> "Small-medium
>>>>>>>>> screen size - 575 X 383";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc m radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Medium
>>> screen
>>>>>>>>> size - 799 X 533";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc ml radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip
>>> "Medium-large
>>>>>>>>> small screen size - 1141 X 761";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc l radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Large
>>> screen
>>>>>>>>> size - 1695 X 1130";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xl radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra
>>> large
>>>>>>>>> screen size - 3615 X 2410";set _ wh 20 20;bin s;
>>>>>>>>>> bin z;
>>>>>>>>>> cc mm multimedia video;set mm sizepolicy expanding;set mm
>>> aspectratio
>>>>>>>>> keep;
>>>>>>>>>> bin zh;
>>>>>>>>>> cc mute static;cn "Vol.";set _ tooltip "Volume slider";
>>>>>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc vol slider 0 0 1 2 5 3; set _ tooltip "Slide to
>>> adjust
>>>>>>>>> level of audio";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc play button;cn "";set play icon
>>>>>>>>> qstyle::sp_mediapause;set _ tooltip "Pause video";set mm play;
>>>>>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc pos slider;set _ tooltip "Slide to scrub through
>>>>> video";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc replay button;cn "";set _ icon
>>>>>>>>> qstyle::sp_browserreload;set _ tooltip "Replay video from start";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc labtext button;cn "";set _ icon
>>>>>>>>> qstyle::sp_arrowdown;set _ tooltip "Show text";
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc note button;cn "";set _ icon
>>>>>>>>> qstyle::sp_filedialogdetailedview;set _ tooltip "Make notes on
>>> this
>>>>>>>>> lesson";set _ wh 30 20;
>>>>>>>>>> bin zzv;
>>>>>>>>>> cc notes editm;set _ wh 200 480; set _ tooltip "Notes are stored
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> your J user folder";
>>>>>>>>>> cc sve button;cn "Save";set _ tooltip "Click Save to update your
>>>>>>>>> current notes";
>>>>>>>>>> bin zzvh;
>>>>>>>>>> cc hlp button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_filedialogcontentsv
>>> iew;set
>>>>>>>>> _ tooltip "Find out more about selected text.";set _ wh 20 20;
>>>>>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc tex editm;set _ wh 640 100;set _ tooltip "Text
>>>>>>>>> version of the video script";
>>>>>>>>>> bin sz;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You need to exclude the lab by putting it's filename into
>>>>>>>>> '~addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt' .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried your lab in a clean JQt session and got the same result.
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>>>> I do some initialization before J is ready. But it shouldn't be a
>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> (I hope).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/windows
>>>>>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T10:54:53
>>>>>>>>>> Library: 8.05.08
>>>>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2s/5.6.2
>>>>>>>>>> Platform: Win 64
>>>>>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>>>>>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/program files/j64-805
>>>>>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It crashes in runview. I turned on debug, first with ctrl-k then
>>> with
>>>>>>>>> 13!:0]1 to get closer to the failure but J crashes. Will play with
>>> it
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> more to see if I can track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM, robert therriault <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are right about "Introduction to Video Labs" not running in
>>> JHS,
>>>>>>>>> in fact I had thought that I had it set up so that it would only be
>>>>> shown
>>>>>>>>> in the jqt labs and would not be visible in the JHS labs, but maybe
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>> or Bill can bring me up to speed on how I specify that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In jqt "Introduction to Video Labs" runs fine for me. You might
>>> take
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> look to see if there are any orphan windows that think that they
>>> have
>>>>>>>>> control. You can find the windows that are open using the following
>>>>>>>>> technique.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JVERSION
>>>>>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
>>>>>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
>>>>>>>>>> Library: 8.05.07
>>>>>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
>>>>>>>>>> Platform: Darwin 64
>>>>>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>>>>>>>>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
>>>>>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wdforms '' NB. should give you a list of current windows
>>>>>>>>>> ┌──────────┬───────────────┬───────┬┬───┐
>>>>>>>>>> │multimedia│140198256240224│qtvideo││631│
>>>>>>>>>> └──────────┴───────────────┴───────┴┴───┘
>>>>>>>>>> wd 'psel multimedia;pclose' NB. Let's you close windows that are
>>>>>>>>> not needed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, bob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was a little premature in sending that e-mail. Since then I
>>> have
>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>> several other labs that don't work under jhs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dissect I
>>>>>>>>>>> Dissect II
>>>>>>>>>>> J by Point & Click I
>>>>>>>>>>> Debug
>>>>>>>>>>> All FVJ4 labs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Video Introduction to Labs" fails in both jhs and JQt. In JQt
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
>>>>>>>>>>> : wd
>>>>>>>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It also uses "wd" so it won't work in jhs even if that is fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:45 AM, chris burke <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will do, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 November 2016 at 06:46, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Need to add "labs/labs/core/jclickbeginners.ijt" to EXJHS in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt" as it assumes that it is running
>>>>>>>>> under JQt.
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