Bob's lab uses the multimedia widget which is unavailable in slim version of jqt, note the suffix s in the line of Qt IDE of JVERSION. The reason is that AIO install of j805 provides the slim version whereas j804 provided the regular version of QtIDE. You need to install the regular version in order to use some widgets such as webview and multimedia.
In addition, multimedia widget needs to install extra codec in order to play video on windows platform. @Bob, you may detect the qtide version using wd'qversion' or JVERSION, and provide appropriate instructions to users who are running the slim version or missing codec on windows platforms. Qt multimedia widget on linux depends on old toolchain and has problems in video. On Nov 15, 2016 7:38 AM, "Don Guinn" <[email protected]> wrote: > OK in J804 and J didn't crash. Also, your video introduction worked there, > so as least Windows is not the culprit. Went back to > JVERSION > Engine: j805/j64/windows > Beta-12: commercial/2016-09-30T15:50:47 > Library: 8.05.06 > Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.1 > Platform: Win 64 > Installer: J805 install > InstallPath: c:/j64-805o > Contact: www.jsoftware.com > > and it still failed. That's as far back as I have. > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't know what to think of the other error message. Will try an older > > version of J to see if it is new. And it could be something wrong with my > > computer. So many pieces to deal with where things can go wrong. > > > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:17 PM, robert therriault < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Yep, that crashed it once I turned debug on. So it does not seem to be > >> platform dependent. > >> > >> Cheers, bob > >> > >> > On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > You need to turn debug on before entering the last line. > >> > > >> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM, robert therriault < > >> [email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> I just get repeated error messages after re-entering the last line, > as > >> >> expected. > >> >> > >> >> wd 'mb infox Test' > >> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox > >> >> : wd > >> >> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3 > >> >> wd 'mb infox Test' > >> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox > >> >> : wd > >> >> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3 > >> >> wd 'mb infox Test' > >> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox > >> >> : wd > >> >> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3 > >> >> > >> >> JVERSION > >> >> Engine: j805/j64/darwin > >> >> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13 > >> >> Library: 8.05.07 > >> >> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2 > >> >> Platform: Darwin 64 > >> >> Installer: J805 install > >> >> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514 > >> >> Contact: www.jsoftware.com > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, bob > >> >> > >> >>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> In looking into why "Video Introduction to Labs" lab fails, tried > >> other > >> >> Qt > >> >>> web demos and they failed as well with the same message. > >> >>> > >> >>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt: > >> >>> > >> >>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2" > >> >>> > >> >>> Also, looking at the J crash - I tried a simple test for wd. > >> >>> > >> >>> wd 'mb info 'Test' > >> >>> | ^ > >> >>> wd 'mb infox Test' > >> >>> > >> >>> wd 'mb infox Test' > >> >>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox > >> >>> : wd > >> >>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3 > >> >>> 13!:0]1 > >> >>> wd 'mb infox Test' > >> >>> > >> >>> Pressing enter after the last line crashes J. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> Got the same thing after rebooting. Tried webview, webd3 and webgl. > >> All > >> >>>> got the same error message. Looks like my Qt is messed up. Will put > >> this > >> >>>> back into beta. But first, I want to look into the crash of J when > >> >> trying > >> >>>> to use debug on this. Just a few quick tests to see if I can > recreate > >> >> it on > >> >>>> something small. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> The window that is open is the ijx window as that was where I ran > >> the > >> >>>>> statements. Also, when running a lab the lab selection window is > >> open. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2" > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Going to reboot to see if it goes away before I try anything else. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM, robert therriault < > >> >> [email protected] > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> No problem with emailing directly at all Don, although you do > limit > >> >> the > >> >>>>>> expertise available to solve the problem ;-) > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> The original error message that you saw was > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm > >> >>>>>>>> : wd > >> >>>>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3 > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> and that usually indicates that a different window is open and > >> getting > >> >>>>>> in the way of messages being received by the mm child. At least > >> that > >> >> is > >> >>>>>> where I have seen it. Nothing that I see in MULTIMEDIA looks out > of > >> >> place, > >> >>>>>> but you are correct that it is a big form. Next steps to me would > >> be: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Did you get a chance to run wdforms '' to see if anything was > open? > >> >>>>>> Labselect window was occasionally the culprit when I was > >> developing, > >> >> but it > >> >>>>>> is possible there is another window floating around that is > getting > >> >> in the > >> >>>>>> way. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> As a final check, is the multimedia lab working in Help>Studio>Qt > >> >>>>>> Demos>multimedia > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Once you see the window you need to click on the open url button > to > >> >> see > >> >>>>>> the video in the window. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Thank you for your work on this Don. Let me know about the status > >> of > >> >> the > >> >>>>>> forms and if the video in the demo runs. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Cheers, bob > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me replying to you privately. Here is > where > >> I > >> >>>>>> got so far: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> wd is crashing on the form MULTIMEDIA. I manually stepped > through > >> the > >> >>>>>> script and got down to this. If you need the info as to the > steps I > >> >> can > >> >>>>>> send it. I see where mm is a multimedia video, but I haven't > played > >> >> with it > >> >>>>>> before. I know MULTIMEDIA is pretty big and spotting something in > >> it > >> >>>>>> changed is difficult, but if you could tell me what I should do > >> nest I > >> >>>>>> would appreciate it. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> and below is the contents of MULTEMEDIA. Sorry about the line > >> wrap. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> MULTIMEDIA > >> >>>>>>> pc multimedia ptop;pmove 0 0 _1 _1; > >> >>>>>>> bin vhv; > >> >>>>>>> cc hide button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarminbutton; > set > >> _ > >> >>>>>> tooltip "Minimize and pause video";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> cc show button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarmaxbutton; > set > >> _ > >> >>>>>> tooltip "Restore video";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> bin vh; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc C static;cn "Chapters";set C tooltip "Chapters of > >> this > >> >>>>>> lab"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc chapter combolist;set _ tooltip "Chapters of > this > >> >>>>>> lab"; > >> >>>>>>> bin zh; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc S static;cn "Sections";set S tooltip "Sections > >> >>>>>> available for view"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc section combolist;set _ tooltip "Sections > >> available > >> >>>>>> for view"; > >> >>>>>>> bin zzhvs; > >> >>>>>>> cc SI static;cn "Size";set _ tooltip "Available Display Sizes"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xs radiobutton;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra small > >> screen > >> >>>>>> size - 320 X 240"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc s radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Small > >> screen > >> >>>>>> size - 415 X 277";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc sm radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip > >> "Small-medium > >> >>>>>> screen size - 575 X 383";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc m radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Medium > >> screen > >> >>>>>> size - 799 X 533";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc ml radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip > >> "Medium-large > >> >>>>>> small screen size - 1141 X 761";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc l radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Large > >> screen > >> >>>>>> size - 1695 X 1130";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xl radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra > >> large > >> >>>>>> screen size - 3615 X 2410";set _ wh 20 20;bin s; > >> >>>>>>> bin z; > >> >>>>>>> cc mm multimedia video;set mm sizepolicy expanding;set mm > >> aspectratio > >> >>>>>> keep; > >> >>>>>>> bin zh; > >> >>>>>>> cc mute static;cn "Vol.";set _ tooltip "Volume slider"; > >> >>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc vol slider 0 0 1 2 5 3; set _ tooltip "Slide to > >> adjust > >> >>>>>> level of audio"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc play button;cn "";set play icon > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_mediapause;set _ tooltip "Pause video";set mm play; > >> >>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc pos slider;set _ tooltip "Slide to scrub through > >> >> video"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc replay button;cn "";set _ icon > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_browserreload;set _ tooltip "Replay video from start"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc labtext button;cn "";set _ icon > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_arrowdown;set _ tooltip "Show text"; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc note button;cn "";set _ icon > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_filedialogdetailedview;set _ tooltip "Make notes on > >> this > >> >>>>>> lesson";set _ wh 30 20; > >> >>>>>>> bin zzv; > >> >>>>>>> cc notes editm;set _ wh 200 480; set _ tooltip "Notes are stored > >> in > >> >>>>>> your J user folder"; > >> >>>>>>> cc sve button;cn "Save";set _ tooltip "Click Save to update your > >> >>>>>> current notes"; > >> >>>>>>> bin zzvh; > >> >>>>>>> cc hlp button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_filedialogcontentsv > >> iew;set > >> >>>>>> _ tooltip "Find out more about selected text.";set _ wh 20 20; > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc tex editm;set _ wh 640 100;set _ tooltip "Text > >> >>>>>> version of the video script"; > >> >>>>>>> bin sz; > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected] > > > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> You need to exclude the lab by putting it's filename into > >> >>>>>> '~addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt' . > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I tried your lab in a clean JQt session and got the same result. > >> >> Well, > >> >>>>>> I do some initialization before J is ready. But it shouldn't be a > >> >> problem > >> >>>>>> (I hope). > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/windows > >> >>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T10:54:53 > >> >>>>>>> Library: 8.05.08 > >> >>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2s/5.6.2 > >> >>>>>>> Platform: Win 64 > >> >>>>>>> Installer: J805 install > >> >>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/program files/j64-805 > >> >>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> It crashes in runview. I turned on debug, first with ctrl-k then > >> with > >> >>>>>> 13!:0]1 to get closer to the failure but J crashes. Will play > with > >> it > >> >> some > >> >>>>>> more to see if I can track it down. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM, robert therriault < > >> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> Hi Don, > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> You are right about "Introduction to Video Labs" not running in > >> JHS, > >> >>>>>> in fact I had thought that I had it set up so that it would only > be > >> >> shown > >> >>>>>> in the jqt labs and would not be visible in the JHS labs, but > maybe > >> >> Chris > >> >>>>>> or Bill can bring me up to speed on how I specify that. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> In jqt "Introduction to Video Labs" runs fine for me. You might > >> take > >> >> a > >> >>>>>> look to see if there are any orphan windows that think that they > >> have > >> >>>>>> control. You can find the windows that are open using the > following > >> >>>>>> technique. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> JVERSION > >> >>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin > >> >>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13 > >> >>>>>>> Library: 8.05.07 > >> >>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2 > >> >>>>>>> Platform: Darwin 64 > >> >>>>>>> Installer: J805 install > >> >>>>>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514 > >> >>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> wdforms '' NB. should give you a list of current windows > >> >>>>>>> ┌──────────┬───────────────┬───────┬┬───┐ > >> >>>>>>> │multimedia│140198256240224│qtvideo││631│ > >> >>>>>>> └──────────┴───────────────┴───────┴┴───┘ > >> >>>>>>> wd 'psel multimedia;pclose' NB. Let's you close windows that > are > >> >>>>>> not needed > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Cheers, bob > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I was a little premature in sending that e-mail. Since then I > >> have > >> >>>>>> found > >> >>>>>>>> several other labs that don't work under jhs. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Dissect I > >> >>>>>>>> Dissect II > >> >>>>>>>> J by Point & Click I > >> >>>>>>>> Debug > >> >>>>>>>> All FVJ4 labs > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> "Video Introduction to Labs" fails in both jhs and JQt. In JQt > >> the > >> >>>>>>>> following: > >> >>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm > >> >>>>>>>> : wd > >> >>>>>>>> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer') (13!:8)3 > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> It also uses "wd" so it won't work in jhs even if that is > fixed. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:45 AM, chris burke < > >> [email protected]> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Will do, thanks. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> On 14 November 2016 at 06:46, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Need to add "labs/labs/core/jclickbeginners.ijt" to EXJHS in > >> >>>>>>>>>> "addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt" as it assumes that it is > running > >> >>>>>> under JQt. > >> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>> ---------- > >> >>>>>>>>>> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum > >> >>>>>> s.htm > >> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>> ---------- > >> >>>>>>>>> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum > >> >>>>>> s.htm > >> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>>>> ---------- > >> >>>>>>>> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum > >> >>>>>> s.htm > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> ---------- > >> >>>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > >> >> forums.htm > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> ---------- > >> >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forum > >> s.htm > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > >> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > forums.htm > >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > forums.htm > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
