I ran (install 'qtide') from jconsole as instructed in download/805/install
to get the full version of Qt. Saw messages in jconsole about installing Qt
and it took a while. Restarted JQt.

   wd 'version'
1.5.2s/5.6.2

Still have the slim version of Qt. Restarted Windows just in case. No help.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:13 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob's lab uses the multimedia widget which is unavailable in slim version
> of jqt, note the suffix s in the line of Qt IDE of JVERSION. The reason is
> that AIO install of j805 provides the slim version whereas j804 provided
> the regular version of QtIDE. You need to install the regular version in
> order to use some widgets such as webview and multimedia.
>
> In addition, multimedia widget needs to install extra codec in order to
> play video on windows platform.
>
> @Bob, you may detect the qtide version using wd'qversion' or JVERSION, and
> provide appropriate instructions to users who are running the slim version
> or missing codec on windows platforms.
>
> Qt multimedia widget on linux depends on old toolchain and has problems in
> video.
>
> On Nov 15, 2016 7:38 AM, "Don Guinn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > OK in J804 and J didn't crash. Also, your video introduction worked
> there,
> > so as least Windows is not the culprit. Went back to
> >    JVERSION
> > Engine: j805/j64/windows
> > Beta-12: commercial/2016-09-30T15:50:47
> > Library: 8.05.06
> > Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.1
> > Platform: Win 64
> > Installer: J805 install
> > InstallPath: c:/j64-805o
> > Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> >
> > and it still failed. That's as far back as I have.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know what to think of the other error message. Will try an
> older
> > > version of J to see if it is new. And it could be something wrong with
> my
> > > computer. So many pieces to deal with where things can go wrong.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:17 PM, robert therriault <
> > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yep, that crashed it once I turned debug on. So it does not seem to be
> > >> platform dependent.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers, bob
> > >>
> > >> > On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > You need to turn debug on before entering the last line.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM, robert therriault <
> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I just get repeated error messages after re-entering the last line,
> > as
> > >> >> expected.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>    wd 'mb infox Test'
> > >> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
> > >> >> : wd
> > >> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
> > >> >>   wd 'mb infox Test'
> > >> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
> > >> >> : wd
> > >> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
> > >> >>   wd 'mb infox Test'
> > >> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
> > >> >> : wd
> > >> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
> > >> >>
> > >> >>    JVERSION
> > >> >> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
> > >> >> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
> > >> >> Library: 8.05.07
> > >> >> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
> > >> >> Platform: Darwin 64
> > >> >> Installer: J805 install
> > >> >> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
> > >> >> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cheers, bob
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> In looking into why "Video Introduction to Labs" lab fails, tried
> > >> other
> > >> >> Qt
> > >> >>> web demos and they failed as well with the same message.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Also, looking at the J crash - I tried a simple test for wd.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  wd 'mb info 'Test'
> > >> >>> |                    ^
> > >> >>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
> > >> >>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
> > >> >>> : wd
> > >> >>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
> > >> >>>  13!:0]1
> > >> >>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Pressing enter after the last line crashes J.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> Got the same thing after rebooting. Tried webview, webd3 and
> webgl.
> > >> All
> > >> >>>> got the same error message. Looks like my Qt is messed up. Will
> put
> > >> this
> > >> >>>> back into beta. But first, I want to look into the crash of J
> when
> > >> >> trying
> > >> >>>> to use debug on this. Just a few quick tests to see if I can
> > recreate
> > >> >> it on
> > >> >>>> something small.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> The window that is open is the ijx window as that was where I
> ran
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>> statements. Also, when running a lab the lab selection window is
> > >> open.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Going to reboot to see if it goes away before I try anything
> else.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM, robert therriault <
> > >> >> [email protected]
> > >> >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> No problem with emailing directly at all Don, although you do
> > limit
> > >> >> the
> > >> >>>>>> expertise available to solve the problem ;-)
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> The original error message that you saw was
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
> > >> >>>>>>>> : wd
> > >> >>>>>>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> and that usually indicates that a different window is open and
> > >> getting
> > >> >>>>>> in the way of messages being received by the mm child. At least
> > >> that
> > >> >> is
> > >> >>>>>> where I have seen it. Nothing that I see in MULTIMEDIA looks
> out
> > of
> > >> >> place,
> > >> >>>>>> but you are correct that it is a big form. Next steps to me
> would
> > >> be:
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Did you get a chance to run wdforms '' to see if anything was
> > open?
> > >> >>>>>> Labselect window was occasionally the culprit when I was
> > >> developing,
> > >> >> but it
> > >> >>>>>> is possible there is another window floating around that is
> > getting
> > >> >> in the
> > >> >>>>>> way.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> As a final check, is the multimedia lab working in
> Help>Studio>Qt
> > >> >>>>>> Demos>multimedia
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Once you see the window you need to click on the open url
> button
> > to
> > >> >> see
> > >> >>>>>> the video in the window.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Thank you for your work on this Don. Let me know about the
> status
> > >> of
> > >> >> the
> > >> >>>>>> forms and if the video in the demo runs.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Cheers, bob
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me replying to you privately. Here is
> > where
> > >> I
> > >> >>>>>> got so far:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> wd is crashing on the form MULTIMEDIA. I manually stepped
> > through
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>>> script and got down to this. If you need the info as to the
> > steps I
> > >> >> can
> > >> >>>>>> send it. I see where mm is a multimedia video, but I haven't
> > played
> > >> >> with it
> > >> >>>>>> before. I know MULTIMEDIA is pretty big and spotting something
> in
> > >> it
> > >> >>>>>> changed is difficult, but if you could tell me what I should do
> > >> nest I
> > >> >>>>>> would appreciate it.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> and below is the contents of MULTEMEDIA. Sorry about the line
> > >> wrap.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>  MULTIMEDIA
> > >> >>>>>>> pc multimedia ptop;pmove 0 0 _1 _1;
> > >> >>>>>>> bin vhv;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc hide button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarminbutton;
> > set
> > >> _
> > >> >>>>>> tooltip "Minimize and pause video";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc show button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarmaxbutton;
> > set
> > >> _
> > >> >>>>>> tooltip "Restore video";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> bin vh;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc C static;cn "Chapters";set C tooltip "Chapters
> of
> > >> this
> > >> >>>>>> lab";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc chapter combolist;set _ tooltip "Chapters of
> > this
> > >> >>>>>> lab";
> > >> >>>>>>> bin zh;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc S static;cn "Sections";set S tooltip "Sections
> > >> >>>>>> available for view";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc section combolist;set _ tooltip "Sections
> > >> available
> > >> >>>>>> for view";
> > >> >>>>>>> bin zzhvs;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc SI static;cn "Size";set _ tooltip "Available Display
> Sizes";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xs radiobutton;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra small
> > >> screen
> > >> >>>>>> size - 320 X 240";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc s radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Small
> > >> screen
> > >> >>>>>> size - 415 X 277";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc sm radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip
> > >> "Small-medium
> > >> >>>>>> screen size - 575 X 383";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc m radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Medium
> > >> screen
> > >> >>>>>> size - 799 X 533";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc ml radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip
> > >> "Medium-large
> > >> >>>>>> small screen size - 1141 X 761";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc l radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Large
> > >> screen
> > >> >>>>>> size - 1695 X 1130";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xl radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra
> > >> large
> > >> >>>>>> screen size - 3615 X 2410";set _ wh 20 20;bin s;
> > >> >>>>>>> bin z;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc mm multimedia video;set mm sizepolicy expanding;set mm
> > >> aspectratio
> > >> >>>>>> keep;
> > >> >>>>>>> bin zh;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc mute static;cn "Vol.";set _ tooltip "Volume slider";
> > >> >>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc vol slider 0 0 1 2 5 3; set _ tooltip "Slide to
> > >> adjust
> > >> >>>>>> level of audio";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc play button;cn "";set play icon
> > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_mediapause;set _ tooltip "Pause video";set mm play;
> > >> >>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc pos slider;set _ tooltip "Slide to scrub
> through
> > >> >> video";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc replay button;cn "";set _ icon
> > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_browserreload;set _ tooltip "Replay video from
> start";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc labtext button;cn "";set _ icon
> > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_arrowdown;set _ tooltip "Show text";
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc note button;cn "";set _ icon
> > >> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_filedialogdetailedview;set _ tooltip "Make notes on
> > >> this
> > >> >>>>>> lesson";set _ wh 30 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> bin zzv;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc notes editm;set _ wh 200 480; set _ tooltip "Notes are
> stored
> > >> in
> > >> >>>>>> your J user folder";
> > >> >>>>>>> cc sve button;cn "Save";set _ tooltip "Click Save to update
> your
> > >> >>>>>> current notes";
> > >> >>>>>>> bin zzvh;
> > >> >>>>>>> cc hlp button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_filedialogcontentsv
> > >> iew;set
> > >> >>>>>> _ tooltip "Find out  more about selected text.";set _ wh 20 20;
> > >> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc tex editm;set _ wh 640 100;set _ tooltip
> "Text
> > >> >>>>>> version of the video script";
> > >> >>>>>>> bin sz;
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Don Guinn <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >> >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>> You need to exclude the lab by putting it's filename into
> > >> >>>>>> '~addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt' .
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> I tried your lab in a clean JQt session and got the same
> result.
> > >> >> Well,
> > >> >>>>>> I do some initialization before J is ready. But it shouldn't
> be a
> > >> >> problem
> > >> >>>>>> (I hope).
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/windows
> > >> >>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T10:54:53
> > >> >>>>>>> Library: 8.05.08
> > >> >>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2s/5.6.2
> > >> >>>>>>> Platform: Win 64
> > >> >>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
> > >> >>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/program files/j64-805
> > >> >>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> It crashes in runview. I turned on debug, first with ctrl-k
> then
> > >> with
> > >> >>>>>> 13!:0]1 to get closer to the failure but J crashes. Will play
> > with
> > >> it
> > >> >> some
> > >> >>>>>> more to see if I can track it down.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM, robert therriault <
> > >> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>> Hi Don,
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> You are right about "Introduction to Video Labs" not running
> in
> > >> JHS,
> > >> >>>>>> in fact I had thought that I had it set up so that it would
> only
> > be
> > >> >> shown
> > >> >>>>>> in the jqt labs and would not be visible in the JHS labs, but
> > maybe
> > >> >> Chris
> > >> >>>>>> or Bill can bring me up to speed on how I specify that.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> In jqt "Introduction to Video Labs" runs fine for me. You
> might
> > >> take
> > >> >> a
> > >> >>>>>> look to see if there are any orphan windows that think that
> they
> > >> have
> > >> >>>>>> control. You can find the windows that are open using the
> > following
> > >> >>>>>> technique.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>   JVERSION
> > >> >>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
> > >> >>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
> > >> >>>>>>> Library: 8.05.07
> > >> >>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
> > >> >>>>>>> Platform: Darwin 64
> > >> >>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
> > >> >>>>>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
> > >> >>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>   wdforms '' NB. should give you a list of current windows
> > >> >>>>>>> ┌──────────┬───────────────┬───────┬┬───┐
> > >> >>>>>>> │multimedia│140198256240224│qtvideo││631│
> > >> >>>>>>> └──────────┴───────────────┴───────┴┴───┘
> > >> >>>>>>>   wd 'psel multimedia;pclose' NB. Let's you close windows that
> > are
> > >> >>>>>> not needed
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Hope this helps.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Cheers, bob
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> I was a little premature in sending that e-mail. Since then I
> > >> have
> > >> >>>>>> found
> > >> >>>>>>>> several other labs that don't work under jhs.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Dissect I
> > >> >>>>>>>> Dissect II
> > >> >>>>>>>> J by Point & Click I
> > >> >>>>>>>> Debug
> > >> >>>>>>>> All FVJ4 labs
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> "Video Introduction to Labs" fails in both jhs and JQt. In
> JQt
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>>>>> following:
> > >> >>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
> > >> >>>>>>>> : wd
> > >> >>>>>>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> It also uses "wd" so it won't work in jhs even if that is
> > fixed.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:45 AM, chris burke <
> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> Will do, thanks.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> On 14 November 2016 at 06:46, Don Guinn <[email protected]
> >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Need to add "labs/labs/core/jclickbeginners.ijt" to EXJHS
> in
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> "addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt" as it assumes that it is
> > running
> > >> >>>>>> under JQt.
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