OK in J804 and J didn't crash. Also, your video introduction worked there,
so as least Windows is not the culprit. Went back to
   JVERSION
Engine: j805/j64/windows
Beta-12: commercial/2016-09-30T15:50:47
Library: 8.05.06
Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.1
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J805 install
InstallPath: c:/j64-805o
Contact: www.jsoftware.com

and it still failed. That's as far back as I have.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know what to think of the other error message. Will try an older
> version of J to see if it is new. And it could be something wrong with my
> computer. So many pieces to deal with where things can go wrong.
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:17 PM, robert therriault <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, that crashed it once I turned debug on. So it does not seem to be
>> platform dependent.
>>
>> Cheers, bob
>>
>> > On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > You need to turn debug on before entering the last line.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:04 PM, robert therriault <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just get repeated error messages after re-entering the last line, as
>> >> expected.
>> >>
>> >>    wd 'mb infox Test'
>> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> >> : wd
>> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> >>   wd 'mb infox Test'
>> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> >> : wd
>> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> >>   wd 'mb infox Test'
>> >> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> >> : wd
>> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> >>
>> >>    JVERSION
>> >> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
>> >> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
>> >> Library: 8.05.07
>> >> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
>> >> Platform: Darwin 64
>> >> Installer: J805 install
>> >> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
>> >> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>> >>
>> >> Cheers, bob
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> In looking into why "Video Introduction to Labs" lab fails, tried
>> other
>> >> Qt
>> >>> web demos and they failed as well with the same message.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
>> >>>
>> >>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, looking at the J crash - I tried a simple test for wd.
>> >>>
>> >>>  wd 'mb info 'Test'
>> >>> |                    ^
>> >>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
>> >>>
>> >>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
>> >>> |mb : invalid mb type: infox
>> >>> : wd
>> >>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> >>>  13!:0]1
>> >>>  wd 'mb infox Test'
>> >>>
>> >>> Pressing enter after the last line crashes J.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Got the same thing after rebooting. Tried webview, webd3 and webgl.
>> All
>> >>>> got the same error message. Looks like my Qt is messed up. Will put
>> this
>> >>>> back into beta. But first, I want to look into the crash of J when
>> >> trying
>> >>>> to use debug on this. Just a few quick tests to see if I can recreate
>> >> it on
>> >>>> something small.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> The window that is open is the ijx window as that was where I ran
>> the
>> >>>>> statements. Also, when running a lab the lab selection window is
>> open.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tried running the multimedia demo and got from jqt:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "This demo is not supported on Win 1.5.2s/5.6.2"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Going to reboot to see if it goes away before I try anything else.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM, robert therriault <
>> >> [email protected]
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> No problem with emailing directly at all Don, although you do limit
>> >> the
>> >>>>>> expertise available to solve the problem ;-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The original error message that you saw was
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
>> >>>>>>>> : wd
>> >>>>>>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> and that usually indicates that a different window is open and
>> getting
>> >>>>>> in the way of messages being received by the mm child. At least
>> that
>> >> is
>> >>>>>> where I have seen it. Nothing that I see in MULTIMEDIA looks out of
>> >> place,
>> >>>>>> but you are correct that it is a big form. Next steps to me would
>> be:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Did you get a chance to run wdforms '' to see if anything was open?
>> >>>>>> Labselect window was occasionally the culprit when I was
>> developing,
>> >> but it
>> >>>>>> is possible there is another window floating around that is getting
>> >> in the
>> >>>>>> way.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> As a final check, is the multimedia lab working in Help>Studio>Qt
>> >>>>>> Demos>multimedia
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Once you see the window you need to click on the open url button to
>> >> see
>> >>>>>> the video in the window.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thank you for your work on this Don. Let me know about the status
>> of
>> >> the
>> >>>>>> forms and if the video in the demo runs.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cheers, bob
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I hope you don't mind me replying to you privately. Here is where
>> I
>> >>>>>> got so far:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> wd is crashing on the form MULTIMEDIA. I manually stepped through
>> the
>> >>>>>> script and got down to this. If you need the info as to the steps I
>> >> can
>> >>>>>> send it. I see where mm is a multimedia video, but I haven't played
>> >> with it
>> >>>>>> before. I know MULTIMEDIA is pretty big and spotting something in
>> it
>> >>>>>> changed is difficult, but if you could tell me what I should do
>> nest I
>> >>>>>> would appreciate it.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> and below is the contents of MULTEMEDIA. Sorry about the line
>> wrap.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>  MULTIMEDIA
>> >>>>>>> pc multimedia ptop;pmove 0 0 _1 _1;
>> >>>>>>> bin vhv;
>> >>>>>>> cc hide button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarminbutton;set
>> _
>> >>>>>> tooltip "Minimize and pause video";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> cc show button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_titlebarmaxbutton;set
>> _
>> >>>>>> tooltip "Restore video";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> bin vh;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc C static;cn "Chapters";set C tooltip "Chapters of
>> this
>> >>>>>> lab";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc chapter combolist;set _ tooltip "Chapters of this
>> >>>>>> lab";
>> >>>>>>> bin zh;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 70 40;cc S static;cn "Sections";set S tooltip "Sections
>> >>>>>> available for view";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc section combolist;set _ tooltip "Sections
>> available
>> >>>>>> for view";
>> >>>>>>> bin zzhvs;
>> >>>>>>> cc SI static;cn "Size";set _ tooltip "Available Display Sizes";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xs radiobutton;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra small
>> screen
>> >>>>>> size - 320 X 240";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc s radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Small
>> screen
>> >>>>>> size - 415 X 277";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc sm radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip
>> "Small-medium
>> >>>>>> screen size - 575 X 383";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc m radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Medium
>> screen
>> >>>>>> size - 799 X 533";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc ml radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip
>> "Medium-large
>> >>>>>> small screen size - 1141 X 761";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc l radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Large
>> screen
>> >>>>>> size - 1695 X 1130";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc xl radiobutton group;cn "";set _ tooltip "Extra
>> large
>> >>>>>> screen size - 3615 X 2410";set _ wh 20 20;bin s;
>> >>>>>>> bin z;
>> >>>>>>> cc mm multimedia video;set mm sizepolicy expanding;set mm
>> aspectratio
>> >>>>>> keep;
>> >>>>>>> bin zh;
>> >>>>>>> cc mute static;cn "Vol.";set _ tooltip "Volume slider";
>> >>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc vol slider 0 0 1 2 5 3; set _ tooltip "Slide to
>> adjust
>> >>>>>> level of audio";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc play button;cn "";set play icon
>> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_mediapause;set _ tooltip "Pause video";set mm play;
>> >>>>>>> minwh 70 20;cc pos slider;set _ tooltip "Slide to scrub through
>> >> video";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc replay button;cn "";set _ icon
>> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_browserreload;set _ tooltip "Replay video from start";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc labtext button;cn "";set _ icon
>> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_arrowdown;set _ tooltip "Show text";
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 20 20;cc note button;cn "";set _ icon
>> >>>>>> qstyle::sp_filedialogdetailedview;set _ tooltip "Make notes on
>> this
>> >>>>>> lesson";set _ wh 30 20;
>> >>>>>>> bin zzv;
>> >>>>>>> cc notes editm;set _ wh 200 480; set _ tooltip "Notes are stored
>> in
>> >>>>>> your J user folder";
>> >>>>>>> cc sve button;cn "Save";set _ tooltip "Click Save to update your
>> >>>>>> current notes";
>> >>>>>>> bin zzvh;
>> >>>>>>> cc hlp button;cn "";set _ icon qstyle::sp_filedialogcontentsv
>> iew;set
>> >>>>>> _ tooltip "Find out  more about selected text.";set _ wh 20 20;
>> >>>>>>> maxwh 600 200;cc tex editm;set _ wh 640 100;set _ tooltip "Text
>> >>>>>> version of the video script";
>> >>>>>>> bin sz;
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> You need to exclude the lab by putting it's filename into
>> >>>>>> '~addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt' .
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I tried your lab in a clean JQt session and got the same result.
>> >> Well,
>> >>>>>> I do some initialization before J is ready. But it shouldn't be a
>> >> problem
>> >>>>>> (I hope).
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/windows
>> >>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T10:54:53
>> >>>>>>> Library: 8.05.08
>> >>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2s/5.6.2
>> >>>>>>> Platform: Win 64
>> >>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>> >>>>>>> InstallPath: c:/program files/j64-805
>> >>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> It crashes in runview. I turned on debug, first with ctrl-k then
>> with
>> >>>>>> 13!:0]1 to get closer to the failure but J crashes. Will play with
>> it
>> >> some
>> >>>>>> more to see if I can track it down.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:19 AM, robert therriault <
>> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hi Don,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You are right about "Introduction to Video Labs" not running in
>> JHS,
>> >>>>>> in fact I had thought that I had it set up so that it would only be
>> >> shown
>> >>>>>> in the jqt labs and would not be visible in the JHS labs, but maybe
>> >> Chris
>> >>>>>> or Bill can bring me up to speed on how I specify that.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In jqt "Introduction to Video Labs" runs fine for me. You might
>> take
>> >> a
>> >>>>>> look to see if there are any orphan windows that think that they
>> have
>> >>>>>> control. You can find the windows that are open using the following
>> >>>>>> technique.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>   JVERSION
>> >>>>>>> Engine: j805/j64/darwin
>> >>>>>>> Beta-14: commercial/2016-10-28T11:59:13
>> >>>>>>> Library: 8.05.07
>> >>>>>>> Qt IDE: 1.5.2/5.6.2
>> >>>>>>> Platform: Darwin 64
>> >>>>>>> Installer: J805 install
>> >>>>>>> InstallPath: /applications/j64-80514
>> >>>>>>> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>   wdforms '' NB. should give you a list of current windows
>> >>>>>>> ┌──────────┬───────────────┬───────┬┬───┐
>> >>>>>>> │multimedia│140198256240224│qtvideo││631│
>> >>>>>>> └──────────┴───────────────┴───────┴┴───┘
>> >>>>>>>   wd 'psel multimedia;pclose' NB. Let's you close windows that are
>> >>>>>> not needed
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Cheers, bob
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I was a little premature in sending that e-mail. Since then I
>> have
>> >>>>>> found
>> >>>>>>>> several other labs that don't work under jhs.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Dissect I
>> >>>>>>>> Dissect II
>> >>>>>>>> J by Point & Click I
>> >>>>>>>> Debug
>> >>>>>>>> All FVJ4 labs
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> "Video Introduction to Labs" fails in both jhs and JQt. In JQt
>> the
>> >>>>>>>> following:
>> >>>>>>>> |set : bad child id: mm
>> >>>>>>>> : wd
>> >>>>>>>> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')    (13!:8)3
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> It also uses "wd" so it won't work in jhs even if that is fixed.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:45 AM, chris burke <
>> [email protected]>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Will do, thanks.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 14 November 2016 at 06:46, Don Guinn <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Need to add "labs/labs/core/jclickbeginners.ijt" to EXJHS in
>> >>>>>>>>>> "addons/labs/labs/exlabs.txt" as it assumes that it is running
>> >>>>>> under JQt.
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