Thanks. I have already tried commenting out parts of my startup.ijs file.
As I can't start any of jconsole, JHS (uses jconsole, I know), or
JQt, I'm
assuming that, say, my JQt specific config file is not responsible.
Anyway, I had no success with that approach with startup.ijs; it
mostly has
definitions of things I use, but nothing much is actually done. It does
allocate
processes with setproc_affin_ but commenting that out made no difference.
profilex.ijs doesn't do much:
user=. install,'\user'
and later
temp=. user,'\temp'
config=. user,'\config'
Commenting these out also doesn't affect matters.
The other files in ~user/config haven't been modified recently, ie not
since
I upgraded J904.
I see there's a configure.ijs file in ~system/util , but, along with
all the other
files in that folder, I haven't altered it. All those files have a
date-stamp of
9/Apr/22 23:27, presumably the when J904 files were created, or when I
installed them.
I don't know where else to look that might have varied the start-up
process, so
don't see how to do a binary chop.
I'll soldier on with J903 for the time being!
Cheers,
Mike
On 22/05/2022 16:14, Raul Miller wrote:
One approach would be to bisect your profile.
Basically, you are performing a binary search, tossing roughly half of
your profile (save a backup), starting J, and repeating based on
whether the problem occurs.
Unless your profile is huge, you probably won't need many attempts to
narrow things down.
-- Raul On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 5:15 AM 'Michael Day' via Beta
<[email protected]> wrote:
OK - the Beta thread must be the right one - this problem has arisen for
me (only me?) on
upgrading from J904 beta-c to beta-d.
Sorry to Raul and Bill - I've just realised yesterday's rushed message
was private; Bill wouldn't
have seen it.
Re Raul's comments (below): Windows permissions are a pain. I'd
always assumed the ctrl-alt-del
method of summoning Task Manager would bestow admin privs. Anyway,
reopening it (TM), forcing
these privileges resulted in the same dialog box, failing to
terminate. I discovered the "killtask"
command, to be used in a cmd window. There's no trouble closing an
instance of JQt at level 903,
presumably because it's still running; however, J904 processes (qt or
console) can't be terminated,
even with admin privileges; it appears that if they're already
"suspended", nothing further can be
done, bar rebooting. As their memory is displayed as 32k, I might as
well live with them staying there!
Re Bill's suggestion:
Can you try start J with an empty profile? eg
jconsole.exe -jprofile
jqt -jprofile
Both work! The sessions aren't usable as all the startup stuff is
missing, and it's a long long time since
I used native J as it was meant to be!
How can I test what is wrong, perhaps in my personal set-up?
Thanks,
Mike
On 21/05/2022 14:45, Mike Day wrote:
Apologies for wrong thread!
V busy with a concert today, so thanks to you & Bill, but I’ll
follow up yr ideas tomorrow
Cheers,
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On 21 May 2022, at 05:08, Raul Miller<[email protected]> wrote:
(switching to general forum, which is hopefully the correct forum for
this kind of content... (also resending -- I thought I sent this
earlier but now it looks like it was not sent.))
If you are getting the message "Unable to terminate process - The
operation could not be completed. Access is denied" from task manager
or process explorer, likely you need administrative privileges to
terminate that process.
If you are using process explorer, you can ask it to restart itself
with administrative privileges by selecting the menu option: File >
Show Details for All Processes.
(But, I have not yet tried windows 11. I'm sort of waiting for things
to settle down a bit more, before I try it.)
I hope this helps,
--
Raul
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 5:05 PM 'Michael Day' via Programming
<[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks. The upgrade was easy, but the result is unfortunate, at
least on this laptop running Windows 11.
Attempting to open any of Jqt, JHS, Jconsole does establish a new
instance of
jqt.exe or jconsole.exe, according to the details display of Task
Manager, but it
immediately shows its status as "suspended."
(Raul MIller recently suggested I use Process Explorer - it shows
the same
information as far as I can see.)
Task Manager refused to terminate these tasks. ("Unable to terminate
process -
The operation could not be completed. Access is denied")
Restarting windows removed them of course.
I had added some stuff to the startup.ijs file, trying to establish
threads, and
I wondered whether that was creating a problem given Henry's changed
some
behaviour; After commenting out those operations in the startup,
opening
the exes still results in suspended status.
I'm not aware of having changed the setup in any way other than
doing the
upgrade, until I altered the startup.ijs file, anyway.
It's difficult to give any useful information.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mike
On 20/05/2022 16:06, Eric Iverson wrote:
J904-beta-d is available for windows/linux/macos.
If you already run J904-beta, then upgrade is easy:
load'pacman'
'upgrade'jpkg'jengine'
If you have not yet installed J904-beta, time to get started!
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J904
<https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J903>
Release notes:
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/ReleaseNotes/J904
<https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/ReleaseNotes/J903>
Questions/bug reports/etc. should go to the beta forum.
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