On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Joey K Tuttle <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm still wandering around confused...
>
> When I install the system from the current dowload shell file, I see
> that directory j64-701/addons/ide/jhs contains files dated in in
> early June. But there is no "config" directory - it is in this state
> that I can edit ~bin/jhs changing the 0 to 1, and get a session in my
> browser.
>
> There things work OK and if go to JAL and update and get ide jhs,
> back in the jijx screen I see:
>
> Updating server catalog...
> Updating server catalog...
> Installing 1 package
> Downloading ide/jhs...
> Installing ide/jhs...
> Done.
>
> Now on the server there are several new files dated 8/4 including a
> new jhelp.ijs file (which is 40 bytes smaller than the older one) and
> directory "config" which contains only file jhs_default.ijs - reading
> that file, I decided to make an edited copy in ide/jhs (which the
> default file says will be read) but that didn't guide me out of my
> confusion.
>
> So - i ignored the direction in jhs_default.ijs to not edit it, and
> put "any" in  place of "localhost" - that does let me start jhs and
> see it from a browser on another machine.
>
> Now at least I can have a jsession and see the newer browser
> presentation. The labs work OK for the first one, but bomb on chapter
> 2, maybe loading more packages will help that. However, I still can't
> try the new lineplot or pieplot...
>
> Anyway, a little progress - thanks for your helps, I'll be
> patient/quiet waiting for some more filling in of blanks in the next
> distribution. Presumably I'm now able to use "Package Manager" to
> pick up new stuff.
>
> - joey
>
>
>
> At 12:30  -0400 2010/08/09, Eric Iverson wrote:
> >A more careful reading of your message and I realize you are caught by
> >changes in conffig between releases.
> >
> >If/when you got the new version running somewhere you would see in the
> help
> >that the way config is done has changed. After you get the update
> installed
> >on your server you should read ~addons/ide/jhs/jhs_default.ijs and follow
> >the instructions for changing things to allow remote access.
> >
> >On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Eric Iverson <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >>  Sounds like somewhere along the way I've messed up the remote
> access/login
> >>  stuff. I'll try to sort it by the end of tomorrow.
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Joey K Tuttle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I'm lost in the swamp... I decided it was time to update my beta
> >>>  stuff and try some of the big deal stuff on my own machines. So, I
> >>>  started on the Linux 64 bit installation and got stuck in the mud -
> >>>  then went to my 32 bit server and got to the same dead end...
> >>>
> >>>  In both cases, the first time I tried running jhs I got the following
> >>>  output:
> >>>
> >>>  ~~~
> >>>   ./jhs
> >>>
> >>>  J HTTP Server - init OK
> >>>
> >>>  Edit startup to change 65001 or access/noaccess from other machines.
> >>>  Default startup is: /usr/local/lib/j701/bin/jhs
> >>>
> >>>  Requires a modern browser (later than 2004) with Javascript.
> >>>
> >>>  A : separates ip address from port. Numeric form ip can be faster than
> >>>  name.
> >>>
> >  >> Access from another machine:
> >>>     http://10.1.2.10:65001/jijx
> >>>
> >>>  Start a web browser on this machine and enter URL:
> >>>     http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijx
> >>>
> >>>  ~~~
> >>>
> >>>  (this after editing jhs to replace the 0 (local machine) with 1
> >>>  (other machines) - required because the servers don't have browsers
> >>>  etc. In both cases I was able to get to the jal screen and install
> >>>  updates. I was trying to get to run the examples below and when I
> >>>  looked at JAL "Installed" it said I was IDE JHS version 1.0.14
> >>>
> >  >> But then - when I tried to kill and restart the server task, it
> >>>  refuses to connect to an outside machine and the bit in the above
> >>>  about "Access from another machine:" is missing .... and no more am I
> >>>  able to have a browser connect to the server.
> >>>
> >>>  The only way I have found to remedy this is to delete all of the J701
> >>>  library, reinstall, edit again the jhs file (for other machine
> >>>  access) - but then I'm down level without the ability to try the big
> >  >> deal things ....
> >>>
> >>>  or indeed even    i. 5   :(
> >>>
> >>>  The only consoling news is that jconsole works fine through all of
> this.
> >>>
> >>>  Help?
> >>>
> >>>  - joey
> >>>
> >>>  PS - I also forgot/lost my last password at jsoftware JUM so I can't
> >>>  even look at things there  :(  ^2
> >>>
> >>>  (Question - is there a way to start over on that point? Next time
> >>>  I'll tape my password to the wall....)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  At 20:06  -0400 2010/07/29, Eric Iverson wrote:
> >>>  >A new JHS update is available. It adds a dozen lines of new J code
> and
> >>>  gives
> >>>  >a hint at what is available through Google Charts.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >An interesting example of the power of browser/web/html/javascript
> and
> >>>  cloud
> >>>  >computing.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Use JAL (Package Manager) to install version 1.0.12 and then restart
> JHS.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >In jijx try:
> >>>  >    plotlines 'fubar';'abc|def';400 200; 2 10$?20#1000
> >>>  >    plotpie 'fubar';'abc|def|ghi';400 200; 50 24 12
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Look at the dead simple the J code. The functions just pack up the
> info
> >>>  for
> >>>  >the chart you want and request it as a URL from the google charts web
> >>>  site
> >>>  >and a png file is sent back in return.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Amazing, state the art plotting with only a few lines in total of J
> code!
> >>>  >
> >>>  >And normal browser services allow you to save the png file, open in a
> new
> >>>  >tab, etc.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >See google chart on the web for examples and documentation on all the
> >>>  >possbilities.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >This exact same stuff is available to users of the JHS server at
> >>>  Jsoftware
> >>>  >jum. You'll have to use jum to kill your task with the older version
> and
> >>>  >restart you task with the new version and then the examples from
> above
> >>>  will
> >>>  >work exactly the same.
> >>>  >
> >  >> >I think this is a big deal!
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