I'm still wandering around confused...

When I install the system from the current dowload shell file, I see 
that directory j64-701/addons/ide/jhs contains files dated in in 
early June. But there is no "config" directory - it is in this state 
that I can edit ~bin/jhs changing the 0 to 1, and get a session in my 
browser.

There things work OK and if go to JAL and update and get ide jhs, 
back in the jijx screen I see:

Updating server catalog...
Updating server catalog...
Installing 1 package
Downloading ide/jhs...
Installing ide/jhs...
Done.

Now on the server there are several new files dated 8/4 including a 
new jhelp.ijs file (which is 40 bytes smaller than the older one) and 
directory "config" which contains only file jhs_default.ijs - reading 
that file, I decided to make an edited copy in ide/jhs (which the 
default file says will be read) but that didn't guide me out of my 
confusion.

So - i ignored the direction in jhs_default.ijs to not edit it, and 
put "any" in  place of "localhost" - that does let me start jhs and 
see it from a browser on another machine.

Now at least I can have a jsession and see the newer browser 
presentation. The labs work OK for the first one, but bomb on chapter 
2, maybe loading more packages will help that. However, I still can't 
try the new lineplot or pieplot...

Anyway, a little progress - thanks for your helps, I'll be 
patient/quiet waiting for some more filling in of blanks in the next 
distribution. Presumably I'm now able to use "Package Manager" to 
pick up new stuff.

- joey



At 12:30  -0400 2010/08/09, Eric Iverson wrote:
>A more careful reading of your message and I realize you are caught by
>changes in conffig between releases.
>
>If/when you got the new version running somewhere you would see in the help
>that the way config is done has changed. After you get the update installed
>on your server you should read ~addons/ide/jhs/jhs_default.ijs and follow
>the instructions for changing things to allow remote access.
>
>On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Eric Iverson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Sounds like somewhere along the way I've messed up the remote access/login
>>  stuff. I'll try to sort it by the end of tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Joey K Tuttle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm lost in the swamp... I decided it was time to update my beta
>>>  stuff and try some of the big deal stuff on my own machines. So, I
>>>  started on the Linux 64 bit installation and got stuck in the mud -
>>>  then went to my 32 bit server and got to the same dead end...
>>>
>>>  In both cases, the first time I tried running jhs I got the following
>>>  output:
>>>
>>>  ~~~
>>>   ./jhs
>>>
>>>  J HTTP Server - init OK
>>>
>>>  Edit startup to change 65001 or access/noaccess from other machines.
>>>  Default startup is: /usr/local/lib/j701/bin/jhs
>>>
>>>  Requires a modern browser (later than 2004) with Javascript.
>>>
>>>  A : separates ip address from port. Numeric form ip can be faster than
>>>  name.
>>>
>  >> Access from another machine:
>>>     http://10.1.2.10:65001/jijx
>>>
>>>  Start a web browser on this machine and enter URL:
>>>     http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijx
>>>
>>>  ~~~
>>>
>>>  (this after editing jhs to replace the 0 (local machine) with 1
>>>  (other machines) - required because the servers don't have browsers
>>>  etc. In both cases I was able to get to the jal screen and install
>>>  updates. I was trying to get to run the examples below and when I
>>>  looked at JAL "Installed" it said I was IDE JHS version 1.0.14
>>>
>  >> But then - when I tried to kill and restart the server task, it
>>>  refuses to connect to an outside machine and the bit in the above
>>>  about "Access from another machine:" is missing .... and no more am I
>>>  able to have a browser connect to the server.
>>>
>>>  The only way I have found to remedy this is to delete all of the J701
>>>  library, reinstall, edit again the jhs file (for other machine
>>>  access) - but then I'm down level without the ability to try the big
>  >> deal things ....
>>>
>>>  or indeed even    i. 5   :(
>>>
>>>  The only consoling news is that jconsole works fine through all of this.
>>>
>>>  Help?
>>>
>>>  - joey
>>>
>>>  PS - I also forgot/lost my last password at jsoftware JUM so I can't
>>>  even look at things there  :(  ^2
>>>
>>>  (Question - is there a way to start over on that point? Next time
>>>  I'll tape my password to the wall....)
>>>
>>>
>>>  At 20:06  -0400 2010/07/29, Eric Iverson wrote:
>>>  >A new JHS update is available. It adds a dozen lines of new J code and
>>>  gives
>>>  >a hint at what is available through Google Charts.
>>>  >
>>>  >An interesting example of the power of browser/web/html/javascript and
>>>  cloud
>>>  >computing.
>>>  >
>>>  >Use JAL (Package Manager) to install version 1.0.12 and then restart JHS.
>>>  >
>>>  >In jijx try:
>>>  >    plotlines 'fubar';'abc|def';400 200; 2 10$?20#1000
>>>  >    plotpie 'fubar';'abc|def|ghi';400 200; 50 24 12
>>>  >
>>>  >Look at the dead simple the J code. The functions just pack up the info
>>>  for
>>>  >the chart you want and request it as a URL from the google charts web
>>>  site
>>>  >and a png file is sent back in return.
>>>  >
>>>  >Amazing, state the art plotting with only a few lines in total of J code!
>>>  >
>>>  >And normal browser services allow you to save the png file, open in a new
>>>  >tab, etc.
>>>  >
>>>  >See google chart on the web for examples and documentation on all the
>>>  >possbilities.
>>>  >
>>>  >This exact same stuff is available to users of the JHS server at
>>>  Jsoftware
>>>  >jum. You'll have to use jum to kill your task with the older version and
>>>  >restart you task with the new version and then the examples from above
>>>  will
>>>  >work exactly the same.
>>>  >
>  >> >I think this is a big deal!
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