I would recommend that J7 not be released until after demos and labs have been out there for some time and rigorously tested by beta users and same with helps.
I am pretty sure that technical issues have been very well done and J7 technically excellent but without substantial amount of labs/demos/helps the larger population of ordinary users will not be able to find good use for it nor learn how to use the power of J7. I have noticed a vast improvement in the way JHS operates but still there is a lot lacking for me to be able to use it as efficiently as I would want even if it does have demos and labs. The JHS demos are fine but I need to spend some more time there in order to utilize its potential. The JHS labs seem to be there but every time I try sme of them out I get some errors but I am not sure if I should report them or not and I do not see anyone else report errors either so I do not know what to do. The GTK part is missing easy demos and labs and I am sure if and then what to say about it. The GTK part seems very impressive but is in many ways a bit too massive to handle and the helps available are triggered towards C and not so much towards J so I am not sure what to say about that either. 2011/1/13 chris burke <[email protected]> > No technical reasons. I am a little concerned by the number of top > level menu items - now 9 (without Studio) in the edit window vs 7 > (with Studio) in J6. Also, I see the current menu items as essential > IDE tools, whereas Studio would be inessential. > > All this is easy to customize. If and when labs and demos are in > addons, then the default behaviour could be as you describe, and a > separate menu config could select which menu items are shown. > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree these should both be addons, but is there any technical reason > > the Gtk IDE couldn't check for the presence of the labs and/or demos > > addons and add a "Studio" menu with the appropriate entries if true? > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:50 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I think these both work best as addons. > >> > >> The demos are not yet migrated to addons, but when this is done, I > >> would suggest load 'demos' rather than menu select demos, and > >> similarly for labs. > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> When will labs and demos be added to the JGTK menu bar? I miss them. > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði, t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 sími: +3544781286 http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
