Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > No, the current implementation doesn't suck. The implementation is > doing exactly what it was set out/designed to do. It may not be how > you would like to visualise your library. It may not be totally > flexible, but it is intuitive and works. There are loads of > inexperienced users who just pick it straight up and use. They don't > have to worry about how to filter/sort.
rubbish! ;) SBS has a steep learning curve and for a lot of people it makes a mess of their collection, which they have to figure out how to unmess via tedious trial and error, or posts here, which there are plenty of examples of. after that FUN experience, they have to learn how to just use it, and really none of the UIs are that great. is it useable? sure, much like a rusty screwdriver, but that doesn't make it good. Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > It was predominantly designed to support the hardware players. The fact > that there is a way of visualising your library on a desktop PC through > the web UI is a bonus. phils mantra: nothing to improve here! move along! gee, sorry for expecting more. Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > Okay, more flexibility would be lovely. But, Logitech have shown no > interest in improving the UI to be more flexible, and in effect have a > higher maintenance cost. You are not interested in paying more money > for such functionality and think you should just get it for free for > some reason. It's unlikely to happen. what a joke. first of all, logitech needs to be interested in selling more units, not only to new customers, but to me as well. just b/c i, like most people, don't want to pay for software upgrades doesn't mean they don't need to do them. this is THEIR business model, and they realize that they have to have competitive software. there are lots of alternative out there that right now could do just about everything except syncing as well as logitech does. itunes and airport express, winamp and droid, win7 and xbox, and on and on... logitech is losing its edge with this product line, b/c its 1. audio only, 2. expensive, 3. geeky, 4. fairly unfriendly. thats why i was so glad to see DLNA server support, (regardless of the reason) b/c i think it could breathe some life back into this thing. but other than sync'ing, what does SBS do that makes it worth it? i mean the other alternatives can feed a digital stream to a toslink too, and only the most obsessive audiophiles think they can hear a difference in such digital media transmitters, so what makes slim the choice? it NEEDS to improve! Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > But, because of the the flexibility of the design, it HAS been possible > to enhance functionality through plugins. That has been achieved in > the form of Erland's wonderful plugins, predominantly CustomBrowse. > You ought to give it a try instead of moaning about "it doesn't do > this, that or the other". Erland has asked you to try something > because he thinks it roughly achieves what you want (albeit textual, > rather than a nice table). If you were to try it, and comment on how > it could be made better, maybe third-party support would continue to > make alternative solutions that would do what you want. But all I ever > hear are childish whinges... and you ought to shut your mouth rather than stick your foot in it. i already have talked to erland about this on PM days ago, ask him. but more over i don't want to use plugins, and erland has said in the past he won't support them forever. as my lazy search problem just showed, plugins can cause problems, and i don't want to rely on any only to have it pulled later anyway. what i am talking about should be NATIVE to the application, and i am free to say so, and just b/c you disagree doesn't make it a childish whine. (certainly not anymore childish than bemoaning how TPE2 was hijacked and how no one should do it that way, even though there isn't a damn thing any of us can do about it, you never miss a chance to whine on it) Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > Well, I've had the totally opposite experience. Maybe it's the way you > present it to them. thats just it, i simply tell them to try it, but what i don't do, and what i am sure you do do, is SHOW them anything. watch someone try to figure this thing out without helping them... and have it be a very UNtechy person. Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > Yep - it wasn't designed as a free package for people who don't want to > buy hardware players. It was predominantly created to support > text-based 2-line hardware players, and was extended. brilliant phil, brilliant! and so b/c of that, there is nothing to be done here, right? nothing to improve? great strategy for getting crucified in the marketplace, where the competition doesn't sit still. genius. Philip Meyer;601290 Wrote: > Same goes for iTunes, which love it or loathe it is popular, but mainly > only for people who own iPods. no... i know lots of people who use itunes who don't own ipods. several reasons for this... podcasts, ability to handle apple formats, download TV stuff, etc. look, i am not saying SBS needs to emulate winamp or itunes, all i am saying is that right now it currently sucks. it isn't up to par. it lags behind a minimal standard. you disagree. so its fair to say i'm the ahole malcontent and you're the pom pom waving cheerleader, so the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, the only question is where? -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & sbc (my home) / sbrec & ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 45k+ mp3 ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84475 _______________________________________________ beta mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
