"Inextricable" comes to mind.
On Feb 2, 5:41 pm, Sagrilarus <[email protected]> wrote:
> That would appear to be a vastly different interpretation of what
> happened in the browser wars than I remember occurring at the time.
> Microsoft is still paying dues for their decisions on IE's
> implementation and delivery decisions.
>
> Sag.
>
> On Feb 2, 7:35 pm, Matthew Brealey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 2, 10:56 pm, Bruce Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 2, 11:48 pm, "Christopher P. Boothe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > While there is some truth in what you say, there is also no innovation
> > > > if people sometimes don't say, I don't like this thing, or that
> > > > thing. And write a new one.
>
> > > But to suggest everyone critical of anything needs to write a new one
> > > is sheer idiocy.
>
> > > > Internet Explorer's dominance, and years without innovation, until
> > > > very recently come to mind.
>
> > > You'll be wanting to check your timeline. IE was simple a reskinner
> > > mosaic, while netscape was the new shiny browser that was rewritten
> > > and generated a lot of new features. Of course, then they decided to
> > > rewrite from scratch _again_ and completely fell out of the market.
> > > Took years for firefox to claw its way back and a big chunk of its
> > > starting share was handed to it by other people.
>
> > Actually while the first two version of Netscape were innovative with
> > new features (wow Javascript, wow frames), after v2 it was much less
> > innovative and plain bad later on.
>
> > IE3 was released August 1996, was highly innovative, with an
> > implementation of the still incomplete CSS standard that was not bad
> > for the time, activex, java, and so Microsoft acquired serious market
> > share with this version.
>
> > Netscape 3, also released August, was fairly lean, but not all that
> > mean, and looks far more dated now than IE3 does.
>
> > Microsoft had their best people on IE, and IE4 was released in
> > September 1997, three months after Netscape 4. Netscape 4 was a
> > steaming pile of junk. It crashed readily, it was slow, bloated with
> > mail clients, the worst implementation of CSS ever (even worse than
> > IE3's, written before CSS had been finished).
>
> > It was so bad, Netscape decided to go all communist throw Netscape
> > away and go open source. That took YEARS. In the meantime IE4 had
> > beaten Netscape 4, with IE 5 MS didn't even have any competition, and
> > after that Microsoft realised they didn't even need to try, and it was
> > six years between IE6 and IE7.
>
> > IE3 was a small innovative browser, and IE4 buried Netscape under
> > features and eye candy. While Microsoft did leverage their market
> > position, Netscape's product was HORRIBLE.
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