On Oct 26, 2008, at 16:25 , Christiaan Hofman wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2008, at 10:35 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2008, at 14:24 , Adam M. Goldstein wrote:
[snip]
>> 1) This is probably an Apple issue, but if anyone can provide
>> clarification it will help in the bug report: On 10.5.5, I have
>> BibDesk assigned to one Space. If I have the separate preview window
>> (SHFT-CMD-T) open, and switch Spaces, and then try to switch back to
>> BibDesk (CMD-TAB or the Dock), the preview window shows up in the
>> current Space. Closing that window lets me switch to BibDesk with
>> CMD-TAB/Dock.
>>
>> So: should the preview window stay in BibDesk's assigned Space, and
>> if
>> so, is this under BibDesk's control?
[snip]
> I've often had problems with spaces, even more serious ones like a
> sheet being associated to a space different from the window it's
> attached to. So lots of child diseases. Generally, almost nothing
> about spaces is made public by Apple, so individual apps have
> virtually no control about how this behaves. Certainly, BD does not
> modify any default behavior, in particular the tex preview window has
> the standard behavior (whatever that is). So this sounds like an Apple
> bug.
Thanks; I'll file with Apple.
>> 2) Next, a preview glitch: I have 537 entries in my .bib file. If I
>> select them all, a preview is generated in the "integrated" preview
>> window, without fuss.
>
> What do you mean by the integrated window? If you're just talking
> about templated text preview, that's completely unrelated, as it has
> absolutely nothing to do with TeX.
I mean the TeX preview window in the main panel (the lower one,
selected by the sunglasses icon :-}). I assume that has something to
do with TeX because when a (real) TeX error crops up, the yellow
warning triangle shows up there, along with the note that TeX preview
generation failed.
>> However, if I have the floating preview window
>> open, it shows a TeX error (the integrated window still makes no
>> complaint).
>
>> The TeX log shows no errors (a bunch of TeX warnings
>> about under/overfill, and bibtex warnings about missing fields, but
>> no
>> errors). I tried a binary search to see where the problem might be,
>> but the results were a bit perplexing.
>>
>
> It must be a TeX error, and that's not under BD's control. I guess
> there's some item that breaks TeX.
Checking as Adam suggested I see no errors reported in the pdflatex/
bibtex/pdflatex/pdflatex sequence; and the log message shows only
warnings (no "!"s in the TeX part; and no errors in the bibtex part).
Is there another way that something not under BibDesk's control can
sneak in here? How would I isolate that.
>> If I isolate 463 of the 537 items in a static group, I always get the
>> error. Depending on the selections making up the group, the error
>> goes away after deselecting some small number of items (1, 2, 3, ..).
>>
>
> Confirms that it's probably just a few items incompatible with TeX.
Not really, but only because my description of the problem lacked a
few details (sorry about that; I edited too many times before sending).
Specifically, it seems that the "463 out of 531" number is important.
Again, though I have not done an exhaustive study, it appears that 463
is the smallest number of entries from this .bib that causes the
problem, and additionally, *none* of the entries which seem to be
critical (as I described in an earlier reply) show this problem.
To restate, if I just select those entries, in the groups in question,
whose presence seems to be needed to cause the error, I get no error.
Truly perplexing, at least to me.
Justin
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