On 27 Oct 2008, at 12:54 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote:

>
> On Oct 26, 2008, at 16:25 , Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>> On 26 Oct 2008, at 10:35 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2008, at 14:24 , Adam M. Goldstein wrote:
> [snip]
>>> 1) This is probably an Apple issue, but if anyone can provide
>>> clarification it will help in the bug report: On 10.5.5, I have
>>> BibDesk assigned to one Space.  If I have the separate preview  
>>> window
>>> (SHFT-CMD-T) open, and switch Spaces, and then try to switch back to
>>> BibDesk (CMD-TAB or the Dock), the preview window shows up in the
>>> current Space.  Closing that window lets me switch to BibDesk with
>>> CMD-TAB/Dock.
>>>
>>> So: should the preview window stay in BibDesk's assigned Space, and
>>> if
>>> so, is this under BibDesk's control?
> [snip]
>> I've often had problems with spaces, even more serious ones like a
>> sheet being associated to a space different  from the window it's
>> attached to. So lots of child diseases. Generally, almost nothing
>> about spaces is made public by Apple, so individual apps have
>> virtually no control about how this behaves. Certainly, BD does not
>> modify any default behavior, in particular the tex preview window has
>> the standard behavior (whatever that is). So this sounds like an  
>> Apple
>> bug.
>
> Thanks; I'll file with Apple.
>
>>> 2) Next, a preview glitch: I have 537 entries in my .bib file.  If I
>>> select them all, a preview is generated in the "integrated" preview
>>> window, without fuss.
>>
>> What do you mean by the integrated window? If you're just talking
>> about templated text preview, that's completely unrelated, as it has
>> absolutely nothing to do with TeX.
>
> I mean the TeX preview window in the main panel (the lower one,
> selected by the sunglasses icon :-}).  I assume that has something to
> do with TeX because when a (real) TeX error crops up, the yellow
> warning triangle shows up there, along with the note that TeX preview
> generation failed.
>
>>> However, if I have the floating preview window
>>> open, it shows a TeX error (the integrated window still makes no
>>> complaint).
>>
>>> The TeX log shows no errors (a bunch of TeX warnings
>>> about under/overfill, and bibtex warnings about missing fields, but
>>> no
>>> errors).  I tried a binary search to see where the problem might be,
>>> but the results were a bit perplexing.
>>>
>>
>> It must be a TeX error, and that's not under BD's control. I guess
>> there's some item that breaks TeX.
>
> Checking as Adam suggested I see no errors reported in the pdflatex/
> bibtex/pdflatex/pdflatex sequence; and the log message shows only
> warnings (no "!"s in the TeX part; and no errors in the bibtex part).
> Is there another way that something not under BibDesk's control can
> sneak in here?  How would I isolate that.
>
>>> If I isolate 463 of the 537 items in a static group, I always get  
>>> the
>>> error.  Depending on the selections making up the group, the error
>>> goes away after deselecting some small number of items (1, 2,  
>>> 3, ..).
>>>
>>
>> Confirms that it's probably just a few items incompatible with TeX.
>
> Not really, but only because my description of the problem lacked a
> few details (sorry about that; I edited too many times before  
> sending).
>
> Specifically, it seems that the "463 out of 531" number is important.
> Again, though I have not done an exhaustive study, it appears that 463
> is the smallest number of entries from this .bib that causes the
> problem, and additionally, *none* of the entries which seem to be
> critical (as I described in an earlier reply) show this problem.
>
> To restate, if I just select those entries, in the groups in question,
> whose presence seems to be needed to cause the error, I get no error.
>
> Truly perplexing, at least to me.
>
> Justin
>
> --
> Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large
> Director
> Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income
> --------
> "Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals.
>  Well, except the weasel."
>       - Homer J Simpson
> --------
>

The only difference between the two is the RTF preview that's  
generated for the separate window, but not for the  preview pane. So  
it's probably a problem with latex2rtf.

Christiaan


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