The menu item is active when a detail window for a non-external item is key. But that's irrelevant, because system defined shortcuts should also be assigned when the menu item is not active, at least that's what I see for other items, and also in this particular case when I open a window for an external publication.
Why this one behaves so strange I don't know. The relation between the status bar seems coincidental, perhaps something to do with priorities because that menu item also occurs in the popup there). It is name-specific, as I get the problem with Add Field… and Remove Field…, but not with other items like Change Field Name…. I'm pretty much convinced it's a bug somewhere in the system, as there's nothing special in our code for these items. My guess is that these items somehow conflict with some default items somewhere in the system and it gets confused. Christiaan On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:08, Fischlin Andreas wrote: > Indeed a GUI bug. I can repeat this behavior on my system too and agree that > either the command should either be greyed out, because inactive or fully > active including any keyboard shortcut. The question would then only be what > are the conditions to trigger active status, edit window open AND status bar > or is an open edit window really already sufficient to make the command > active. In my view the status bar should not matter for the menu command, > since the + at the lower left corner is in my understanding merely an > alternative to the menu command. > > Regards, > Andreas > > > ETH Zurich > Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin > Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology > CHN E 21.1 > Universitaetstrasse 16 > 8092 Zurich > SWITZERLAND > > [email protected] > www.sysecol.ethz.ch > > +41 44 633-6090 phone > +41 44 633-1136 fax > +41 79 221-4657 mobile > > Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > On 20/Apr/2010, at 09:44 , Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > >> In this case it is not greyed out and the menu item is usable, only >> the shortcut doesn't show up when the status bar is hidden. >> >> Niels >> >> On 20.04.2010, at 09:40, "Fischlin Andreas" <[email protected] >>> wrote: >> >>> Admitted, it is confusing that shortcuts don't show up while the >>> menu command is clearly visible, albeit greyed out (inactive). >>> >>> I'm not sure this to be a bug, but others knowing Objective C and >>> Apple's frameworks and how BibDesk makes use of it better than me >>> should judge on this. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Andreas >>> >>> >>> ETH Zurich >>> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin >>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology >>> CHN E 21.1 >>> Universitaetstrasse 16 >>> 8092 Zurich >>> SWITZERLAND >>> >>> [email protected] >>> www.sysecol.ethz.ch >>> >>> +41 44 633-6090 phone >>> +41 44 633-1136 fax >>> +41 79 221-4657 mobile >>> >>> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 09:09 , Niels Kobschätzki wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 08:18, Fischlin Andreas wrote: >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>>> Do you see the status bar at the bottom of the edit window of the >>>>> publication with which you are testing this? Unless you have the >>>>> status bar active, the shortcut does indeed not show up. Use menu >>>>> command "View -> Show Status Bar" and "View -> Hide Status Bar", >>>>> respectively, to control the visibility of the status bar at the >>>>> bottom of edit windows. Unless you checked all these things out I >>>>> doubt there is a bug in BibDesk. It works fine for me. >>>> >>>> That was the problem - status bar was hidden. As soon as I turned >>>> that on, it worked. >>>> Looks like an interface-bug, doesn't it? >>>> >>>> Niels >>>> >>>>> On 20/Apr/2010, at 07:51 , Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:48:55 +0200, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2010, at 14:37, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to add a shortcut for Publication -> Add Field… but >>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>> I enter in the Keyboard-Pref Pane doesn't work. I tried "Add >>>>>>>> Field", >>>>>>>> "Add Field…" and "Add Field..." -- what do I have to use? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Niels >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Add Field…", wfm. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doesn't work for me :( >>>>>> I have the publication-window open and had a look onto the menu >>>>>> when I >>>>>> was in a text-field and outside of a text-field. The shortcut just >>>>>> doesn't appear in the menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried it now with another menu-entry with a "…" (New Public >>>>>> ation >>>>>> from File…) at the end and there it doesn't work neither. It >>>>>> seems >>>>>> that this is the problem because it works with menu-entries that >>>>>> do not >>>>>> have "…" at the end. I tried the same in another application w >>>>>> ith such >>>>>> a menu-entry (with "…" at the end) and there it works w/out any >>>>>> problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> And just to be clear: I tried "…" and "..." (but afaik the fir >>>>>> st one >>>>>> is the one that should work; and I c&p the one from Christiaan) >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using Bibdesk 1.5.1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Niels >>>>>> --- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. 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